Spot on.

people, and not just Hull FC fans, seem to apply a different logic to that they experience every day, the world isn't kind, it doesn't give you a cuddle when you feel down (usually it kicks you and breaks a few ribs)

Yes, RH has done his job well, and on occasion he's gone "above and beyond" and put his body on the line, and I respect him greatly for it. That doesn't mean we should create some meaningless position for him. And I doubt he'd want it anyway, he's a very practical and proud man.

It says realistic and then one of the first posts comments on a Cas player who has just signed a big 5 year contract, meanwhile many others suggest Dobson, who has signed for Salford.

Campese would be too big a gamble with his injury history.

We need a prop to come in to replace Carvell but I can't see it being Taylor

Would like a better winger to come in, as a squad player, to replace both Colbon and Crookes

personally would like to keep Pitts, rather have him than Tuson atm

Fair points and I don't really disagree with you. My original suggestion of club ambassador was in response to HR's query on what role could be offered to Horne other than a coaching role. I have no feelings either way about whether we keep a player on the books once his playing days are over.

Has Dobson being confirmed?

I thought Taylor was an open secret at this point. That means our prop-pen for next year is Paea, Bowden, Green, Taylor, Feka, Watts and BTW. That seems like enough for now. That said, I don't think Bowden has signed a new deal yet so we might need another.

By the sounds of it we wont be signing squad players if we can avoid it so I'd expect our back up winger to be Lancaster from here on. If Talanoa gets an extension then we'll have Talanoa, Lineham, Crookes, Lancaster and Stark in the first team. That is enough numerically although I'd like to see Crookes shipped out and replaced with someone good.

I like Pitts but haven't seen enough of Tuson to judge. Hadley looks like establishing himself and Thompson has surprised many with his performances. I would also expect to see Turgut some time soon. So our second rowers will be Ellis, Tuson, Whiting, Thompson, Hadley and Turgut. I don't see much room for Pitts, sadly.

My wish-list is short and reusable every year. We need a scrum-half. If Miller can kick on and do the job then I'll be happy. If he can't then I think we need an older, established player for HTW and Reece Dean to learn from and eventually displace.

Quote: C for Cuckoo "That said, I don't think Bowden has signed a new deal yet so we might need another.'" I have good news for you: www.hullfc.com/article/34187/bow ... re-at-club

Quote: C for Cuckoo "That said, I don't think Bowden has signed a new deal yet so we might need another.'" I have good news for you: www.hullfc.com/article/34187/bow ... re-at-club

We have had players supposedly coming (Chase) and then not coming

Wingers: Talanoa is on 2 year deal isn't he? He and Lineham obviously first choice but feel that having someone that is solid with SL experience as back up while Lancaster and Stark are still eligible for the U19s would be handy

Second Row: Thompson seems to be doing a good job at prop and while Hadley is establishing himself he and Tuson have been in and out of the side. Pitts is a solid player (don't recall being out injured ever) who has filled in at 13 when Westerman has been out. Plus we don't want to be relying too much on Ellis

I think Talonoa's second year is optional. If the club sign a top winger then he might be surplus. Crookes is contracted to 2015 I believe so if we need a back-up with SL experience to punch a woman or get sent-off then we're sorted.

As for Westerman, the thought of him being injured makes me feel ill. We'd be nothing this year without him. Whiting could cover but it wouldn't be the same.

I wonder how far away from the first team Jordan Abdull is.

A gamble we may have to take. No doubting his quality, he's exactly what we need. Plus he's looking for a SL deal.

The 10 out will be Heremaia, Horne(Retiring), Crookes, Colbon, Watts, Carvell, Pitts, Arundel, McDonnell and Kent.

Has Watts been that bad. He never seems to be able to keep a momentum going at a club. I thought he would be a top prop at one time.