If Hock played on sunday in front of the Threepenny they would have ripped into him for 80 minutes about his addictions. Not so much as a mumble from the KC

Salford away last season was the best game for new songs, there was a Tom Briscoe one that we were singing for ages but apart from a few people around us people just turned round and looked at us like we were idiots.

I did make a comment about nailing the druggy, and then realised we're hardly the fans of the right team to be taking the p*ss out of druggies!

Again, you can't say "the atmosphere was good at a final so why not at a league game". They're totally different. Everyone is up for it. Regardless of where you were sat, you wanted to sing and shout. Compare that to a league game against Widnes for example. The people that want to sing may be spread out everywhere, and thus not much gets off the ground. At terraced grounds, these people all stand together and things take off.

Even when we were on our great run in 2006, we barely had much going.

Being all-seater doesn't mean there can't be a good atmosphere. But it does prevent it from happening more often than it could.

The shiite we've been playing since 2008 has hardly been conducive to a decent atmosphere or fans being assed to make up new songs

Exactly, and is also why our attandances have fallen.

Wigan are hardly in a position to chant about fans leaving early but it didn't stop them!!

The atmosphere was hardly rocking pre-2007 to be fair.

Some great atmospheres at the KC. leeds games always used to be special. Also remember cracking atmospheres at the bradford play off game in 2006 and the wigan one in 2007

Yep, we used to have some good atmosphere going on.

Back to winning ways = More fans + Better atmosphere.