I was underwhelmed when we first signed Agar,its gone downhill from there with me.

Another one here. Whilst I admire his work ethic and defensive ability, I think he is built up far too much on this board at times.

And it was Agar who brought him in as a leader on and off the pitch. Well the guy can tackle and works hard but so often the thing that we complain about is the lack of leadership. He wasn't on the pitch for long at Leeds but his ridiculous amount of minutes that he's insisted ( or so it seems ) on playing during his time here have not seen us have the direction or the ability to react positively to adversity etc. He's slow and naturally gets slower after an hour or so of battering his body into anything that moves. I too admire his work ethic but he should have been used differently and any positive results of his leadership qualities are not visible to me.

I genuinely wonder how he is viewed by his teammates. There are certain things during his time here that I think suggest favourable treatment and aloofness on his part.

Where is the ice cream man when you need a positive spin ?
Is he unavailable with the hot weather or is he not posting becoz he doesnt want to join the Agar out gang afterall ? Even he cant keep shouting Agar up after more and more defeats.

He often goes missing for 3/4 days after a crap result (he can't get on here fast enough if they have a good one).

maybe he just doesn't spend all his time at a computer like a few folks on here

If folks are getting paid for it!! why not



They may have banned facebook on most work computers but not RLFans

What, like him getting the team together the night before the Harlequins away game to discuss how important it was?
Playing on with a shoulder injury reported to be career-ending?
Making 50 tackles a game?

No of course we are not happy, but I am even less happy about the Moron who started this thread and every other thread he starts, has posted over 12000 posts and has a severe obsession called antiagariteous and expects everyone else to agree with him, for gods sake get a job!!

when first appointed I thought it was a natural progression of an up an coming coach.

on his extention of contract on April fools day

I thought it stank of desperation.

I was of many on here that after he started to gather his own troops that his true colours would emerge



Only thing was i thought it would be a bit more positive than it has turned out.

Our record against the "Bigger sides" is poor and for the size and tradition of our great club we should be pushing these so called "Bigger sides", (Hudds, Cas, Catalan FFS), and finishing higher.

So in answer to the question. A Big NO.

Solution? I'm affraid I do not claim to be an expert but Agar is not working or achieving what this club deserves and the club has far higher paid people who should be answering that question before me.

All I want is a club who week in week out gives 100%, a coach appointed who can motivate and lead the team to success, and players who play with passion and pride to wear the shirt and unfortunately some if not all of these points seem to be missing.

More like the way some of his comments in the press/on the website have been worded, like he's talking down to people or cheapening the influence of his teammates (I'm thinking of the not playing at prop piece in particular). Or similar with a couple of his blogs I've seen. Or the way he appears to have been able to dictate where and how long he plays regardless or form/influence.



I think in some ways he's perhaps put his own desires above the team's, as he seems to have some sort of obsession with proving he can still physically match other players despite his age. I may be wrong, I just detect more than a whiff of arrogance.