The board decided that a change had to be made and sacked Sharp. They felt , I think , that the constant changes weren't working and would resort to the dynasty idea of promoting from within. That was the big mistake. You only do that on the back of success. So whilst it's a nice idea they did it at exactly the time that we needed a complete clear out of all of the coaching staff and a new man with his own team being brought in. Sharp should have stayed until we got found that new team. We desperately needed freshness then and we do now. Everyone is too much in their comfort zone , it's all too familiar and jaded. McRae was always going on about "the cancer" but he could never make that change whilst he was still there , the only complete change a club can make in one fell swoop is to the coaching set up , it can't be done with players because of numbers and varying length of contracts. Until we make that change , that the BOD had the chance to , we're going to have the same old same old year in year out.

On the (theoretical) basis that clubs have a capped amount of money on playing staff, then all clubs should in theory be challenging for honour. The key difference will the coaching.

Hudds are doing very well, but I bet that Nathan Browne will be judged sooner or later on finals / trophies. Something I don't think Agar can be judged upon, otherwise he'd be long gone.

I am not an advocate of Agar by any means, but he had been at York as a head coach and then with us as an assistant. Even if he was assistant to a failing coach in Sharp (and I have a degree of sympathy for Sharp, even more so now in hindsight with the leaniency shown to Agar) you'd like to think those lesson would be learned on how not to do it.

Even your example of Maguire is flawed. He had never been a head coach.

I think there needs to be a realisation that peoples preception of a big club is very different. Having a large fan base doesn't simply made a big club. I am quite gaurded by this next comment, but, unfortunately there are far too many moaners who sit in the stands an criticise unjustly and in the long run it will affect recruitment / key appointment. Afterall, can you honestly imagine Matt Sing, Nathan Blacklock or more so Stephen Kearney giving and player / coach a good recommendation about Hull FC given the shocking treatment by a section of fans towards them?

After listening to Mcnamara on the radio, I rather have Agar any day of the week than him.

He is a first class idiot and sounds very aggressive to the interviewer.

McNamara had a terrible attitude towards Matt Dean. His reply to the question on why he didn't select Welham or Yeaman was ridiculous.

100% agree. He's arrogant, ignorant, negative, defensive and rude. If he's the next FC coach, I'd give Agar a 35 year deal right now.

35 Year ?? Ive heard from neighbours that an other extension for Rich is not too far away.

Agree, we said the same on the way home...he came across as a right arrogant !

That made me laugh...."whats in form"..."scoring trys"......Would love to know know what Mcnamara meant by Shenton "in form"...is he bolloxs.

I fail to see how I am "flawed" in my example of maguire when I posted





Perhaps you can explain how that is flawed .

As for the rest of your post, yes, the coach is a big part of the equation, but so is player development, youth set up, scouting systems, off field support for players (medical treatment, physios, training facilities etc. etc) and I'd bet that wigan, saints, wire, hudds and wigan all invest more than us in each of these areas.

I can't agree that players will be influenced by fans complaining. It won't even be a factor. A player would take salary, facilities, potential for winning games and trophies and who they will be playing for and with into account, but they know fans are a bunch of whingers whoever they play for

Agreed, McNamara came across as arrogant and aggressive.

Unfortunately I'm resigned to the fact that he'll be our next coach.

thats what i thought baldy, Shenton???? Macca came across as one arrogant to$$a, but i fear, as do some on here, feel hes going to be our next coach!!!

Jeez,noooooooooooooooooo. ....I would sooner have Agar.

You said, appointing a coach with no credentials was not a good move. From a head coaching point of view, Maguire had never been at the helm before and did not know the set up at Wigan, Agar has been a head coach (albeit at a lower league club) and did know our set up having been assistant coach.

Its conjecture as to whether other teams have invested more than we have, we are unlikely to know that.

McNamara was arrogant and defensive but he did have a point about the centres, it's not just about tries. That said Shenton is not scoring tries or doing little else.

Which is exactly why I qualified maguire by saying he'd worked at one of the best clubs in the world with one of the best coaches in the world for 6 years or so. agar worked in 2 failed coaching set ups at our club. there can't have been many worse (realistic) candidates for the job