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smith has it totally wrong with brown.hes not a 7 and would be far better in a heremia type role at 9.why he is playing houghton at 9 and keeping him on the all match is beyond me,i thought we de got past all that.even in his post match talk he gives morgan smith the plaudets,but adds,he can play a few positions.we need a few specialists in the side ,not a team of players who can play in a few positions.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "smith has it totally wrong with brown.hes not a 7 and would be far better in a heremia type role at 9.why he is playing houghton at 9 and keeping him on the all match is beyond me,i thought we de got past all that.even in his post match talk he gives morgan smith the plaudets,but adds,he can play a few positions.we need a few specialists in the side ,not a team of players who can play in a few positions.'"


Id forgotten about Heremaia, time flies! but I think you are right Brown could do a similar type of role off the bench.

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Quote: bonaire "Asked by Hull Live why Hoy missed out, Smith replied

Theres a bad smell about Hoy missing out, he has been in the better half of performers the first two games (not a big accolade I know!) and we were short of numbers, something has gone on but what I dont know

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Relieved to get the win. As others have mentioned, some promising performances from some players, however we had this game all but won at half time and almost found a way to lose.

Our discipline is awful. Too many penalties and six agains every week.

Can’t understand why Hoy didn’t play. Played ok so far this season and didn’t warrant being dropped. We need as much stability as we can, whilst we wait for the suspended/injured players to return, so dropping Hoy doesn’t look justified.

Tough game next week at Cats. The real test will be Leigh at home in a fortnight. We’ll have at least key players back, so a major improvement should be expected.

Finally, a big shout out to London, with a very spirited performance. Also respect to the London fans who brought more fans than Huddersfield and made more noise.

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Quote: UllFC "Theres a bad smell about Hoy missing out, he has been in the better half of performers the first two games (not a big accolade I know!) and we were short of numbers, something has gone on but what I dont know'"


Tex was also relegated to supervising the half time Kick the Ball in the Van competition, which is the ultimate go and sit on the naughty step. Looked quite rightly p1ssed off. I remember Kane Evans getting that gig last season, a few weeks before he went home.

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Well that was hard work to watch and it was hardly Saints or Wigan we were playing, but a team that many pundits predicted wouldn't win a game all year. The fact we actually managed to win a game in the last minute has to be a plus but otherwise we just played dumb rugby, ran down blind alleys and read the game poorly. Today I think any other Super League club would have beaten us easily. Yes we have injuries and suspensions but it's hardly inspiring is it? It's going to be a long tough season and one that would threaten our coach under normal circumstances but with the coach we have who else do we get. Getting rid isn't the answer. Whether its our financial situation or what I don't know but we have let so many good players go and today showed that we haven't replace any of them like for like. we have some good youth but without some real inspiring father figures out there they'll eventually struggle. particularly when they re surrounded by colleagues who show a lack of any sort of direction. Catalan will be tough indeed. sadly and rather embarrassingly I like many on here have never felts so low about a season.'"


Getting rid could be the only answer rather than sit on mediocrity
My opinion is he is living off his past success but the game has passed him by.
Gaz Ellis was no coach but neither is Gene and i know which one i would have kept at the club.
Tell me what Smith has done other than get rid of a number of players who were already in their last year of service.so thats not difficult and make us into the most undisciplined team in S/L.
Nothing on the field shows any improvement whether thats in structure,defence or attack.
The promotion of youth is not Smith choice it has been necessarry due to suspensions and injury,in fact for whatever reason he is holding back one of our better youth players in Balmforth.
I welcomed the Smith appointment but just dont think the passion is there.If it was he would have sorted out the onfield indicipline last season never mind this season
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Quote: bonaire "Getting rid could be the only answer rather than sit on mediocrity
My opinion is he is living off his past success but the game has passed him by.
Gaz Ellis was no coach but neither is Gene and i know which one i would have kept at the club.
Tell me what Smith has done other than get rid of a number of players who were already in their last year of service.so thats not difficult and make us into the most undisciplined team in S/L.
Nothing on the field shows any improvement whether thats in structure,defence or attack.
The promotion of youth is not Smith choice it has been necessarry due to suspensions and injury,in fact for whatever reason he is holding back one of our better youth players in Balmforth.
I welcomed the Smith appointment but just dont think the passion is there.If it was he would have sorted out the onfield indicipline last season never mind this season
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Oh do shut up. We win and you’re negative. “Fans” like you are just part of the problem

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Quote: Quirkyusername "Oh do shut up. We win and you’re negative. “Fans” like you are just part of the problem'"


Tony is that you? We struggled to beat a championship level team that got unexpectedly promoted at home. Every other SL team would have beaten us today.

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Quote: UllFC "Tony is that you? We struggled to beat a championship level team that got unexpectedly promoted at home. Every other SL team would have beaten us today.'"


No, my name’s Mike. It’s draining reading whine, whine, whine. Try picking a positive or two out of a performance instead of just the negatives.

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Quote: Quirkyusername "No, my name’s Mike. It’s draining reading whine, whine, whine. Try picking a positive or two out of a performance instead of just the negatives.'"


You wont get into half of them, they just put the same thing on repeat but change the head coach name as appropiate. This rebuild is massive no matter who the head coach is. Trouble is people dont see beyond the first team results or the shoe string budget we have.

One of the most successful coach in SL, yet the armchair coaches claim the game has past him by. Getting rid wont solve the problem, no other head coach cant do more with this squad and budget. You wont get it into them though.

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Quote: pmarrow "You wont get into half of them, they just put the same thing on repeat but change the head coach name as appropiate. This rebuild is massive no matter who the head coach is. Trouble is people dont see beyond the first team results or the shoe string budget we have.

One of the most successful coach in SL, yet the armchair coaches claim the game has past him by. Getting rid wont solve the problem, no other head coach cant do more with this squad and budget. You wont get it into them though.'"


Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.

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Quote: UllFC "Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"


With 8 players out, losing their best player 1 minute in and are also a part time outfit...

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Quote: UllFC "Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"


Thats a good question

Id say less square pegs in round holes
And faced with opposition with no leadership/organisation/kicking game in the halfs.

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Look we have plenty to moan about ATM. There's some like me who try to paint a positive picture regardless. Some infact most who praise us when we are good and complain rightly when we are crap. Then there's those who don't say nothing when we win but lose and it's post after post after post whining.

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Quote: hull2524 "Look we have plenty to moan about ATM. There's some like me who try to paint a positive picture regardless. Some infact most who praise us when we are good and complain rightly when we are crap. Then there's those who don't say nothing when we win but lose and it's post after post after post whining.'"


When was the last decent win though? Saints at home June last year? The away derby last July? Thats that last I can remember us beating the odds to win a game

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