Yes it was. As was Castleford. The problem being is that the players are fully aware the next paycheck is there come what may.

Yup,
Nail on the head smallears, people who say win bonuses are bad seem to forget that paycheck regardless is even worse.

Yes, I think it would certainly help in our situation!

No doubt - if his players spill the ball like they did this weekend then he should be worried. Was it their fault or his do you think ?

Mainly the players I would have thought. Minds on the semi and all that. Far more important to them than a league game they were unlikely to win anyway

I agree - terrible attitude from the players that. No wonder they've only got 2 more points than us and a worse defensive record. Some of our players have much in common with some of theirs. Doesn't reflect well on Tony Smith mind.

The defence and difference in league points are more of a reflection of the period before tony smith took over

The've won 8 of their last 12 league games under smith. If we'd shown the same form we'd be in 4th place.

You keep trying to make your point though

Shame you cant answer the point that Wire made basic errors a plenty last weekend but you don't blame their coach, whereas we made plenty of basic errors at the weekend and you blame our coach. Cock and bull about not having minds on the game is exactly that - cock and bull.

Your inconsistency would get you a place in our starting line up.

Wire have had a small number of poor games in the last 15 or so, which isn't ideal but is sympomatic of sportmen at the top level (it's why the likes of man utd sometimes lose games you wouldn't expect them to). At our club poor play is endemic.

Do you remember when millward got his wigan team amongst us the week before the CC final in 2005? You suggesting our minds were on the wgan game that day?

If you don't understand feel free to come back to me

Wire are fighting for a top 8 place which I have no doubt whatsoever is a major priority for that club. To suggest their minds were on a semi final 3 weeks down the line and it caused them to make numerous errors is one of your more ridiculous fabrications it has to be said. The Warrington players, coached by Tony Smith, were poor in that game in the same way the Hull players were poor against Celtic. It was the players who were responsible for that defeat by failing to apply the basic skills to the required standard. They have a better quality of player in general and will win more games than us no doubt about it. The sooner we remove some of the dross from our squad the better. If Agar does remove some of the wasters then he will have succeeded where several have previously failed. If he fails to coach the side to a top 4 berth next year with the higher quality signings brought in he should go.



Don't worry - understanding your posts isn't a major issue. My son's Key Stage 1 comprehension homework is more taxing.

It is the hard work done during the game that loosens defenses up for the final quarter. Hull comfortably beat Celtic - the fact that it was in the last 15 minutes is irrelevant. Have SL stopped counting tries in the last fifteen minutes.

Warrington beat Celtic by precisely the same score in the previous week and the reviews were along the lines of "Two second-half tries from full-back Richie Mathers finished off a comfortable evening's work for Warrington Wolves as they condemned the Celtic Crusaders to yet another engage Super League defeat this season."

This will be another entry into the evidence file I'm preparing in order to claim £5 for the reward of the capture of James Rule.

We didn't even look like scoring until the last 10 minutes in a home game, against the worst side in SL by some distance. This was supposed to be in response to the shambles at Cas the week before

It must have been hard work done invisibly as up to the final 15 minutes we looked, and were, poor. The final scoreline flattered us and it would have been less except that Celtic lost heart imho, when we went back into the lead. Admittedly it was good play by us to score the three tries but it doesn't hide the ineptitude of the previous 65 minutes.