He's an idiot off the pitch and there should be consequences.

did he beat up his wife, drive away from an accident, kick the living daylights out of someone on a roundabout?

No and neither did any current Rovers player

Well it's clearly not acceptable. If you look back to page 1 of the thread that was sort of the point. Flawed character, prodigious talent. What the appropriate consequences are for this transgression I don't know, but "as a Rovers fan" the moral latitude afforded to players by your current board is perhaps what you'd suggest we apply here?

are you this funny all the time?

Agree, he is supposed to be a pro athlete. It’s embarrassing for the club. Those defending him or making light of it need to think about it a bit more.

No... is your implication that that makes it okay?

I don’t expect him to be torn limb from limb over this, but at a minimum an apology and some sort of contrition appears to in order.



Aye that’s the one, fair enough.



The ones that spring to mind are Cockayne because of his repeated offending and Minns because it is recent. I’m happy to discuss others, if you can remind me. Just to acknowledge up front that neither were/are as good/important players as Kelly, making it easier to take the moral high ground to the limited extent that I did.

For Cockayne, the suspension for the assault, I was just about okay with that and one or two people told me it was out of character. The racist Facebook post was his second chance for me and I thought it was a mistake not to sack him then. It’s a fine line between being supportive and enabling. Obviously then, I had no issue when he was sacked after the next thing with the car and Watts. I couldn’t, and still don’t really, understand why we bought him back for the second spell though that was as much for rugby reasons as anything else.

With Minns, as with Cockayne’s first offence, i’m okay with the club being supportive. I think he should and will get a ban, because those are the rules, but i’m not a great believer in our drug laws and by itself, I don’t think using is as bad as assault (definitely), or using racist or misogynistic language in the ways Cockayne or Kelly, respectively, did. I imagine on the last the difference between BC and AK and a fair few others is that they were caught, but that doesn’t excuse them.

Assuming there’s no more to it, either mitigating or aggravating, then I think one of those all too standard club statements and a fine paid to a women’s charity will be the extent of it. And McDonalds should ban him (if that’s where it was).

Agree with most of that, not sure about the relativity you apply to Class A drug use, but would be surprised if it amounts to much more than what you describe as far as Kelly goes. Will certainly be a tricky one if the contract talk is still ongoing.

Just a personal opinion. Massive oversimplification but if, magically, I could make any two of the following three disappear from the world:

Violence
Use of bigoted language
Class A drugs

I wouldn’t have to think about it very long.

Excepting where the participants consent. So RL can stay, and you and I can continue our BDSM play.

Talking of shocking stuff seen on Facebook, I saw you in your new five a side kit earlier. Glorious.

There was a clue in my post. But I stand by it. Well if you've noticed it, here and elsewhere, and not thought it worth actioning, maybe it's not one of the top 2 things to be rid of.

Its a nothing video. Bloke gets drunk, acts a bit stupid. End of story.