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| Quote: WormInHand "He did this when he first bought the club and appointed McRae. After his fingers were burnt down to the knuckle as a result he stepped up himself - trouble is, there was only Radford left within the club to offer advice.
As Radford had at that time an agenda - to oust and replace Gentle - that advice was inevitably tainted (my opinion based on how I saw events evolve at the time). And so we have the "local boys for local clubs" nonsense, as Radford tried to paint an analogy between himself and the likes of Wane - it's a compelling argument if you're not fully au fait with the sport and it's complexities, and unaware of the diminutive size of the ball pool that represents available talent at this isolated end of the M62. Not many big fish in that small pond two years ago - it'll take years to develop it into the thriving lake Wigan and it's close neighbours collectively have available. The clutch of tiddlers available to us nibbling at the heels of the sleeping giant isn't going to rouse it in the timescales Pearson hoped for.
So Pearson's been badly advised, twice. After the costly first time he's grabbed the reins himself. And appointed Radford with his weaker arguments for success as chief whisperer into the ear. And firmly pinned his badge to this strategy. (It's cheaper and sounds plausible to the newbie.) I agree he needs a mentor. Question is, after McRae, will he have the stomach to trust again?'"
Great post!
The only thing is add is that the good work at Wigan was done by McGuire and Wane just carried that work on for a couple of years, the signs this season are that the wheels are starting to come off, they are a team of thugs with no ideas. Still better than us though of course!
Brian Noble is the experienced head this club needs, massive sucess at Bradford, turned Wigan around and set them on a better path, got Crusaders to the playoffs on a shoestring budget, coached England, the only black mark is Salford but since when has anyone had immediate success at a club that buys in a brand new squad? He has a point to prove and comes with the added bonus of being a good spokesperson to the media, something we've lacked since the McRae and Kear days.
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| Quote: Pal of Mine "I don't think Pearson should go. I would be extremely worried about who would buy us - Allam? And then get rid of us all together. I trust Pearson, I don't necessarily agree with his decisions all the time but I do believe he does what he thinks is best for the club.'"
I don't want him to go either, but I'd like the old Adam Pearson back, the one who was ruthless in hiring and firing coaches at Hull City and wouldent let anything stand in his way. Making statements like he won't sack Radford no matter what suggests he's lost his ruthless streak, but of course what he says to the media and what he's actually thinking could be different.
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| I'd bring noble in until the end of the season and see how he goes. Either in addition to or instead of radford. Whatever, we need to change things and quick. If noble does a good job extend his contract. If things aren't going well then pearson has time to advertise the role and see what comes in.
Other option would be to offer it to paul rowley and scupper on of our main competitors in the super 8's
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| Quote: UllFC "I don't want him to go either, but I'd like the old Adam Pearson back, the one who was ruthless in hiring and firing coaches at Hull City and wouldent let anything stand in his way. Making statements like he won't sack Radford no matter what suggests he's lost his ruthless streak, but of course what he says to the media and what he's actually thinking could be different.'"
pearson's choices of coaches at city was generally poor. other than taylor, most of them were abject failures
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "pearson's choices of coaches at city was generally poor. other than taylor, most of them were abject failures'"
He'd argue Phil Brown was a success, but in general I'd agree with you. Molby, Parkinson and Dowie were disasters.
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| Quote: UllFC "He'd argue Phil Brown was a success, but in general I'd agree with you. Molby, Parkinson and Dowie were disasters.'"
brown was a success after pearson left
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| Quote: UllFC "I don't want him to go either, but I'd like the old Adam Pearson back, the one who was ruthless in hiring and firing coaches at Hull City and wouldent let anything stand in his way. Making statements like he won't sack Radford no matter what suggests he's lost his ruthless streak, but of course what he says to the media and what he's actually thinking could be different.'"
That's what is needed from Pearson .
The only difference is at Hull City is wasn't all his own money he was putting in .
The worrying thing is who at the moment would take us on !
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| Quote: HFC Boy "That's what is needed from Pearson .
The only difference is at Hull City is wasn't all his own money he was putting in .
The worrying thing is who at the moment would take us on !'"
I've said before that even scraping 8th and getting 3 more SL home games is worth more than the wage of a decent coach. Even just getting say 2k walk up fans per game at £20 a head is 40k a game. Whereas a Championship super8 game will be passholders and a minibus full of away fans if we're lucky, and the damage to pass sales for next year would be massive.
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| Just checking my euro millions ticket from last night, standby!
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| Quote: BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE "Made a rod for his own back with that one, big mistake.'"
No it wasn't.
When has any owner or chairman ever come out and said, publicly, that a coach had "x" number of games before the chop'?
If he had cone out and said Radford was put of his depth, which to us the fans is obvious, then Pearson would be accused of causing undue pressure and disruption in the camp.
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| Do some folks on here know what they are saying, wanting a sole owner to walk away? I can see the queue down Anlaby Road now lining up to buy him out or take over the reins, the answer to the thread is no, unless you can name a potential owner and for some of you in this thread if your long term fans then I'd be very careful what you wish for!
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Do some folks on here know what they are saying, wanting a sole owner to walk away? I can see the queue down Anlaby Road now lining up to buy him out or take over the reins, the answer to the thread is no, unless you can name a potential owner and for some of you in this thread if your long term fans then I'd be very careful what you wish for!'"
Assam Allam may be prepared to buy the club after reading his praises in the ' City, should we be concerned thread'
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Do some folks on here know what they are saying, wanting a sole owner to walk away? I can see the queue down Anlaby Road now lining up to buy him out or take over the reins, the answer to the thread is no, unless you can name a potential owner and for some of you in this thread if your long term fans then I'd be very careful what you wish for!'"
Staggering, isn't it? I've raised this very obvious point but no one's addressed the fact that virtually all RL owners are benefactors and most to the tune of £500k pa. Exactly who would take us on when the club was up for sale for years before AP bought it and the SMC deal is progressively more challenging? Not seen any credible alternative buyers put forward. Some people are delusional on this fundamental point.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "No it wasn't.
When has any owner or chairman ever come out and said, publicly, that a coach had "x" number of games before the chop'?
If he had cone out and said Radford was put of his depth, which to us the fans is obvious, then Pearson would be accused of causing undue pressure and disruption in the camp.'"
I never said he should of said he had x amount of games did I, what i was getting at is that Pearson shouldn't of said anything.
Saying a coach will not get sacked is a mistake in my opinion as you set yourself up to look foolish when it all goes Pete tong and you have to sack him, Pearson could of been abit more diplomatic with his wording I.e he could of just said something like he had his full backing and support.
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| Quote: BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE "I never said he should of said he had x amount of games did I, what i was getting at is that Pearson shouldn't of said anything.
Saying a coach will not get sacked is a mistake in my opinion as you set yourself up to look foolish when it all goes Pete tong and you have to sack him, Pearson could of been abit more diplomatic with his wording I.e he could of just said something like he had his full backing and support.'"
Pearson was asked at interview, do you expect him to say nothing?
If Pearson sacks Radford, it would look anything but foolish.
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