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Wigan will have a fully fit Gareth Hock back nxt season though.

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Quote: tonylRobin "Wigan will have a fully fit Gareth Hock back nxt season though.'"


You mean the drug cheat!

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Your kidding yourself if you believe really Hull will finish above Leeds!! You do have a much better coach than last year but he is still unproven. You will miss fitzgibbon badly imo!!'"

Leeds will do ok if their ageing squad stay fit, they will look more to finishing the season strongly IMO.

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Quote: Smiggs "You mean the drug cheat!'"



Not exactly performance enhancing drugs where they(from what I remember)?

Think you should count yourself very lucky it was only Gleeson who was tested at the time!

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Not exactly performance enhancing drugs where they(from what I remember)?

Think you should count yourself very lucky it was only Gleeson who was tested at the time!'"


Are you insinuating other players were taking banned substances at the time?

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Quote: hullandbroncos "Once your in the Semi's mate has to be final all the way wouldn't be happy dropping out at semi's'"

Don't get me wrong mate, I would love to get to the final and win it all icon_biggrin.gif

The semis would show improvement. That's what this season is about for me, not necessarily winning trophies, but improving our game as a whole.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Don't get me wrong mate, I would love to get to the final and win it all
I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved.... icon_confused.gif

So if you reach the semi's after a relatively easy passage (e.g. Swinton, Rochdale & Leigh, all at home) and then get smashed by a Saints or Leeds, then that is better than a close 2 point defeat away at Wigan in the 1st Round??

The true barometer of improvement will come in the League....The Cup, unless you reach the final, is a distraction, which has a fantastic prize at the end.

The one thing the Cup can be, if built on properly, is a springboard to future success in the league....Something that Hull almost did in the mid 00's and what Wire are close to doing right now.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved....
And yet its a distraction that all clubs seem to want to do well in. IMO the differnce between league and cup is the ability to win knock out games, just like the playoffs. During the regular season teams can afford to lose a game but with knock out rugby there's that added pressure, that's why the top sides are top sides, expierenced players

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved.... True, however semi would still be an improvement on recent years in terms of round achieved. I've said for years that it's the league we need to focus on, and, like you say, that will be the true barometer of improvement.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I don't think what round you reach in the Cup is any sort of measurement of how you have improved....
All true, however we've not beaten a Super League side in the Cup since the 2008 semi final. I'd take reaching the semis as a success and an improvement if that includes a couple of wins over top flight sides.

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My wish list is:
1. Top 5 finish
2. Messrs Gentle & McRae to introduce attractive rugby and to be given opportunity to build a progressive and winning team
3. See attacking play led by #6, #7, and #13
4. Have a Plan B when Plan A is not working
5. Identify a true leader who 'kicks axse,' when required
6. Show confidence in giving youth first team opportunity from Round 1
7. Establish team culture: get rid of any remaining cheats, liars, thugs, druggies, and drinkers. To apply to off-field as well as on-field personnel
8. Reach milestone of 10,000 season ticket holders and home games nudging towards 14,000 spectators
9. For me to see more home games now they've been switched to Sundays!
10. For Mr Pearson et al to bring back the feel good factor in 2012 and beyond for all of those Hull F.C fans! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nleech "My wish list is:
1. Top 5 finish
2. Messrs Gentle & McRae to introduce attractive rugby and to be given opportunity to build a progressive and winning team
3. See attacking play led by #6, #7, and #13
4. Have a Plan B when Plan A is not working
5. Identify a true leader who 'kicks axse,' when required
6. Show confidence in giving youth first team opportunity from Round 1
7. Establish team culture: get rid of any remaining cheats, liars, thugs, druggies, and drinkers. To apply to off-field as well as on-field personnel
8. Reach milestone of 10,000 season ticket holders and home games nudging towards 14,000 spectators
9. For me to see more home games now they've been switched to Sundays!
10. For Mr Pearson et al to bring back the feel good factor in 2012 and beyond for all of those Hull F.C fans!
Happy new year

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Quote: "]Wolfie wrote [nleech wrote

It's a Happy New Year from him, and a Happy New Year to Black and Whites everywhere from me.

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2. Warrington
3. Wigan
4. Catalans
5. Leeds
6. Hull FC
7. Huddersfield
8. Hull KR
9. Harlequins
10. Bradford
11. Wakefield
12. Castleford
13. Widnes
14. Salford

Found that tricky! Once you get out of the top 5, I think it could be very close this year. A lot of new coaches and players with different ideas. Think Salford will struggle, but hopefully it will be a close fought-out year.

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