Yeah you're probably right. Like I said I have always been very critical of Whelam but he is making me eat humble pie this year, certainly knows where the line is. Still drops off a few too many tackles for me and lacks a bit of pace to be considered world class.

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Head to head Whelam v Yeaman (albeit not up to date). You can probably deduce from that that Whelam works a little harder but Yeaman is more of a handful for defences. Also backs up my point about Whelam's tackling.

He won't get anywhere near international standard until he stops averaging 3 missed tackles per game.

He's nowhere near as good as Yeaman or Gleeson, and imo never will be.

Welham scored a good try on Friday but struggled on a few occasions to hold a 50% fit Gleeson.

Yeah because he outstripped him all those times. The only 3 times they clashed directly -



Welham Scored

Gleeson Scored

Welham put him on his backside

Welham was one on one with Long for his try, HTH. And the only time I remember either of Welham or Gleeson on their backside was when Welham tried to put a shot on Tickle, and failed miserably.

You're wrong on more than one of the points you make. No surprise there then.

Welham came up against Long for his try and not Gleeson.



Remember when Gleeson went through Welham and needed four men to hold him short of the line?



Remember when Gleeson's try got ruled out after Cockayne dislodged the ball, well it started with Gleeson stepping and leaving Welham on his backside.

No because they never happened

denial



and you thought it was a river in Egypt!

I saw some of your lot leaving early but didn't realise you'd left at half time.

Stayed until the end, thats what we do

with your eyes closed, buttocks clenched, saying "thankyou Willie" presumably?

Nah I can accept defeat when the effort is there, sometimes it's just not your day

Plenty leaving early on Friday at the North end. Maybe you didn't realise with your eyes shut and fingers in your ears.

People tend to leave after the hooter has gone, Unless they were leaving in there droves with the game in the balance with 3 minutes left?

No they left after Yeaman scored and before the hooter - missing the last try as once again your Welham-dominated left side once again had a new one ripped.

You can take your sock off now, thats if it's not stuck on. I realise its all pent up frustration from us ending and starting your season in the same manner.



You took advantage of the turmoil at Rovers, well done. The problem is you weren't miles better than us and you know it, you battered and you battered and you battered yet with 5 minutes left Rovers still were in with a shout despite what had gone on during the previous week.

in fairness, only so many seats on the bus near the window.....

Way too easy.

You mean when the pathetic little dwarf tried to play mind games, without realising you actually need a fully functioning mind to do this, all your own doing so stop trying to use it as an excuse.

Yes they did. Still maybe that's the philosophy at Rovers these days, just pretend that these things just don't happen.

Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"No because they never happened'" Makes no wonder Welham was full or energy, Gleeson was carrying him around www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=17105

Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"No because they never happened'" Makes no wonder Welham was full or energy, Gleeson was carrying him around www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=17105

That's not limited to just these days!