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Quote: Kosh "Not exactly backing Agar as such, is he? More doing a compare and contrast between him and Morgan. Also seems to confirm that Agar is fine as an assistant and as many of us think has just been promoted beyond his ability.'"


Well he does describe the criticism as being "unfair" and says its "far too early to take drastic action" and says that Agar's game plan is not the cause of the defeats.

I don't agree with him, but those are the comments attributed to him.

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Quote: Nobeerineasthull "Well he does describe the criticism as being "unfair" and says its "far too early to take drastic action" and says that Agar's game plan is not the cause of the defeats.

I don't agree with him, but those are the comments attributed to him.'"

I'd kind of agree with his last point, if you don't count bench use as part of the game plan. Fundamental shortcomings in defence and attack are the main problem. No worries there, then. icon_smile.gif

Cooke seems to be making the same 'mistake' as a number of other commentators and focussing on just three losses rather than the underlying problems that simply haven't been addressed throughout his tenure.

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As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.

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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"

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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"



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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"

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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"

great post...i think you should send a copy to james rule.... icon_biggrin.gif

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If you are not part of the solution then you are more likely part of the problem...:



Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"


icon_thumb.gif Very well said.

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Really, tell me why?
Also tell me how the club would prove to be as "successful" without the fans? How long have you been going?

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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"


I think this is how a lot of people feel. Well put.

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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"


So who's right? You are.

Fantastic post. Write a petition and I'll sign it this time.

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Quote: Graham Richards "As a fan of nearly 35 years I have grown an emotional attachment to the club. That attachment is quickly being erroded by the dross being served up on the pitch. It is in danger of wilting and dying if things don't improve soon. I like every other Hull fan only need to see an improvement in attitude and commitment and style of Rugby to have that emotional tie flourishing again.
3 years though of dire performances are taking their toll. Ok we have had a few highs but they are so quickly forgotten when you see performances like we have seen this year and also at Murryfield, Salford, Crusaders Wakefield etc last season. Add in big games like Leeds 3 games , Rovers play off, Wigan x 2 Wire x 2 last season and it all adds up.
Others from outside the fans and the club will only see 3 games this year. They don't have that emotional attachment that we do. They are only interested in themselves.
It annoys the life out of me when supporters of other clubs come on here saying we are over reacting. Some troll yes, but others seem to think they are being intelligent and balanced. They don't see the team week in week out. I as a RL supporter could see that Cullen had run his course at Wire, but would never try and balance that by saying a Wire fan was over reacting when they were going insane about him.
Thankfully our board do not have the same emotional attachment to the club as us fans. If they did they would run it into the ground with debts. Its a receipe that can only have disasterous consequences in the long run. But I expect the board to listen to the fans and not the likes of Nathan Brown (unless he is the next coach )
I don't like this "we pay their wages" attitude but without us fans supporting the club both physically and financially they will be on their way. With that in mind yes I and everyone who has ever supported the club is entitled to have an opinion. The boards job is to listen and act on what they see as the most important on our behalf. If they cock a deaf un for too long then you get apathy and this can grow and become cancerous and have dire effects on the club. We are starting to see the beginnings of that now.'"


Well said mate. I genuinely believe that the board think we'll carry on turning up in large numbers forever despite the dross being served up on the pitch

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