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Quote: WormInHand "rlIndeedrl

Mrs B also produced this rlCautionary Talerl a few months back. Might be worth PMing to Blind Uncle Harry.'"



20/20 vision here, that's been discussed a long time ago when Mr Allam first expressed an interest in the football club.
I'm not the one blinkered and refusing to take on board the options. I also seem to have more faith in the Council's abilities than some of you do. Such experiences as have been highlighted can be accommodated in decent contracts.

I just hope the ERYC use the same bargaining tactic as Mr geraghty or HCC and HFC are screwed.

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[quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089] There ain’t no music East side of this city That’s mellow like mine is, That’s mellow like mine. [/quote:2lhqd089]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32444.jpg



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One Cllr, without recourse to his electorate or the committee he represents, and against the published views of his party and Council leader decided the land's not for sale before he'd even heard the proposals.'"


On the contrary. The two Allams were in a three hour meeting with Cllr Geraghty and Cllr Bayes. Also present were three "vastly experienced" officers who are currently negotiating the Siemens deal.

The Allams were unwilling/unable to present a business plan, stating the freehold had to be signed over to them before discussions could begin. They refused to show the "plans" they had drawn up saying they cost "£3000 and belonged to them". In a nutshell, there [iwere[/i no proposals on the table to discuss. What is the council supposed to do?

Obviously, they declined to give him the stadium, offered alternative land in which Allam is not interested, then Allam gives an interview in the Mail stating he has uttered his last word on the subject.

That's the end of it. Apart from Allam's droned on ever since. A man of his word, you see.

It's not the council who refused to negotiate. It's Allam. Ball's in his court, so wind your neck in.

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[quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089] There ain’t no music East side of this city That’s mellow like mine is, That’s mellow like mine. [/quote:2lhqd089]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32444.jpg



Quote: My Uncle Harry "20/20 vision here, that's been discussed a long time ago when Mr Allam first expressed an interest in the football club. '"

And still highly relevant, of course.

Quote: My Uncle Harry "I'm not the one blinkered and refusing to take on board the options. I also seem to have more faith in the Council's abilities than some of you do. Such experiences as have been highlighted can be accommodated in decent contracts.

I just hope the ERYC use the same bargaining tactic as Mr geraghty or HCC and HFC are screwed.'"

What bargaining tactic would this be?

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Quote: WormInHand "On the contrary. The two Allams were in a three hour meeting with Cllr Geraghty and Cllr Bayes. Also present were three "vastly experienced" officers who are currently negotiating the Siemens deal.

The Allams were unwilling/unable to present a business plan, stating the freehold had to be signed over to them before discussions could begin. They refused to show the "plans" they had drawn up saying they cost "£3000 and belonged to them". In a nutshell, there [iwere[/i no proposals on the table to discuss. What is the council supposed to do?

Obviously, they declined to give him the stadium, offered alternative land in which Allam is not interested, then Allam gives an interview in the Mail stating he has uttered his last word on the subject.

That's the end of it. Apart from Allam's droned on ever since. A man of his word, you see.

It's not the council who refused to negotiate. It's Allam. Ball's in his court, so wind your neck in.'"


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Quote: WormInHand "On the contrary. The two Allams were in a three hour meeting with Cllr Geraghty and Cllr Bayes. Also present were three "vastly experienced" officers who are currently negotiating the Siemens deal.

The Allams were unwilling/unable to present a business plan, stating the freehold had to be signed over to them before discussions could begin. They refused to show the "plans" they had drawn up saying they cost "£3000 and belonged to them". In a nutshell, there [iwere[/i no proposals on the table to discuss. What is the council supposed to do?

Obviously, they declined to give him the stadium, offered alternative land in which Allam is not interested, then Allam gives an interview in the Mail stating he has uttered his last word on the subject.

That's the end of it. Apart from Allam's droned on ever since. A man of his word, you see.

It's not the council who refused to negotiate. It's Allam. Ball's in his court, so wind your neck in.'"


Nothing contrary at all, the party and Council leaders published views are contrary to the recent opinion of the one person. icon_rolleyes.gif

According to others, the matters aren't quite as published. If the land offered is an example of the attitude, it was land that was discounted for the stadium as it wouldn't get planning permission. Some offer there eh? Yet it's offered in support of the Council's attitude. icon_rolleyes.gif

Both parties are guilty of washing their smalls on public, but responding to press questions is hardly "droning on". The same could be said of the Councillor, whose statement seems to be a transcript of his previous radio interview, that was followed by Adam Pearson who in his diplomatic style, gave a different account which pointed to elements of the statement that differed from his understanding.

A few on here seem to have made their minds up that it's simply Council good, allam's bad. If only life was so simple.

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Quote: My Uncle Harry "Nothing contrary at all, the party and Council leaders published views are contrary to the recent opinion of the one person.
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Quote: kt170496 "And some people can see things different Mr Allam is a business man he is out to make money if the price was right he would sell Hull City but if the Council was soft enough to have given him the Stadium at a knock down price Mr Allam would be the only one to benefit if he sold Hull City ..He is only in it to make money. Adam Pearson work for the man . The Ambulance Chaser who work on the same committee and has just had a 1 million pound loan was saying nice thing about the man in the HDM .both are going to side with him But we have our own opinions of him .When he stated he would go to Melton then let him we will see how many Hull City supporters go .The last thing you go into a meeting is on the back of a black mail'"


He wont go to Melton. ERYC will never give him planning permission. The residents of Melton and North Ferriby would be up in arms. He can say what he likes but it will never happen.

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Quote: kt170496 "And some people can see things different Mr Allam is a business man he is out to make money if the price was right he would sell Hull City but if the Council was soft enough to have given him the Stadium at a knock down price Mr Allam would be the only one to benefit if he sold Hull City ..He is only in it to make money. Adam Pearson work for the man . The Ambulance Chaser who work on the same committee and has just had a 1 million pound loan was saying nice thing about the man in the HDM .both are going to side with him But we have our own opinions of him .When he stated he would go to Melton then let him we will see how many Hull City supporters go .The last thing you go into a meeting is on the back of a black mail'"


I wouldn't totally disagree.

What I would say is that, a businessman with a track record of success should have been offered more respect than to have snidey, disprovable half truths about discussions posted in the media. A more professional way would have been to look for the common ground and work out from there, not start with a swift "no" to an assumption. More faith should have been put in the experts so that clearer offers could be put to politicians. As I keep saying, investors are in short supply in this region, the way this has been handled will only make that worse.

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I wouldn't totally disagree.

What I would say is that, a businessman with a track record of success '"


Ruscador?

Quote: My Uncle Harry "should have been offered more respect than to have snidey, disprovable half truths about discussions posted in the media. A more professional way would have been to look for the common ground and work out from there, not start with a swift "no" to an assumption. More faith should have been put in the experts so that clearer offers could be put to politicians. As I keep saying, investors are in short supply in this region, the way this has been handled will only make that worse.'"


Perhaps Allam could start by keeping his trap shut instead of waffling on about ASBOs, comas etc?

It does seem more than coincidence that whenever he opens his mouth, some idiot speaks

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Quote: cod'ead "Ruscador?

Perhaps Allam could start by keeping his trap shut instead of waffling on about ASBOs, comas etc?

It does seem more than coincidence that whenever he opens his mouth, some idiot speaks'"


I reckon you're right about the asbo comments, but I hardly think a man that can turn less than nothing into £250 million meets the definition of idiot.

The ruscador thing's been covered to bits when he took over the club. The proof of that non-pudding includes local business still having confidence in him. If it's past records being compared, the docks strike did so much to benefit this region didn't they? icon_eek.gif

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Quote: My Uncle Harry "icon_biggrin.gif The funny thing is, you probably believe that the Boulevard, with no safety certificate on low value land really had increased in value from its previous valuation. to precisely that of their outstanding debt.
Land has never gone down stagnates mutch like your blatherings but never goes down fact

The person shooting there feet of seems to be you or explain why your actuay on this forum

Sport England is the Governent much like one of Alams company's out Melton
are sups of his

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Quote: oud3pstander "Land has never gone down stagnates mutch like your blatherings but never goes down fact

The person shooting there feet of seems to be you or explain why your actuay on this forum

Sport England is the Governent much like one of Alams company's out Melton
are sups of his'"


UK land prices fall 33% in one year!(200icon_cool.gif


"Residential development land has dropped by a third in value over the past year. Yorkshire and Humberside have been worst hit by the downturn, with land in all categories now worth about half its value from a year ago. The north-west has also been badly affected, with drops of 41 per cent and 36 per cent for brownfield and greenfield sites. The capital has avoided the full impact, with land prices in inner London falling by just 10 per cent. Outer London areas have fared only marginally worse, with a fall of 15 per cent over the past year."

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Roo (Allam)climbed off, and sat down next to him.
"Oo, Tigger, (Pearson)" he said excitedly, "are we at the top?"
"No," said Tigger.(Pearson)
"Are we going to the top?" (Allam)
"No," said Tigger. (Pearson)
"Oh!" said Roo(Allam) rather sadly. And then he went on hopefully: "That was a lovely bit just now, when you pretended we were going to fall-bump-to-the-bottom, and we didn't. Will you do that bit again?"
"NO," said Tigger. (Pearson)

Make Me Laugh......

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Quote: Riff "Roo (Allam)climbed off, and sat down next to him.
"Oo, Tigger, (Pearson)" he said excitedly, "are we at the top?"
"No," said Tigger.(Pearson)
"Are we going to the top?" (Allam)
"No," said Tigger. (Pearson)
"Oh!" said Roo(Allam) rather sadly. And then he went on hopefully

If I could find some foil for me crack, I might find it funny too

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Wasps RU owner about to walk as the council won't back his "sporting village" development...& he's talking about alternative sites for this development...sound familiar?

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/oc ... evelopment
Wasps RU owner about to walk as the council won't back his "sporting village" development...& he's talking about alternative sites for this development...sound familiar?

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/oc ... evelopment


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