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| Quote ="muddyboots"Long is still the best 7 in this country by far imo and thats including the current imports,
He still has pace and an eye for a gap and i don't think 9 months will take this away but for me his biggest attribute is his unpredictability,
theres many a time when he has come up with a howler but this never bothers him, five minutes later he will create something out of nothing and score or make you some points.'"
Only a few days ago on here it was 'no way' or 'we don't want him' or 'past it'
Make your minds up.
FWIW, I think he is still a very good player, but it will be interesting to see HOW good he is when he is in a team light years behind the one he came from. He never cut it in a GB or Wigan shirt.
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| I'll resevere judgement until I see exactly who else we sign for next season. If he has been signed at the right price and we spend cash on some real quality elsewhere in the squad, then maybe this could prove to be a decent signing.
Must admit that I was initially a little underwhelmed though.
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| Quote ="Jahull"It just goes to show your board has brainwashed you into accepting average siginings. A couple of years of poor recruitment have resulted in when you make an average signing its rejoiced. You had the opportunity to sign a top class S/H at their peak of their career admitadly would have needed to be an Aussie, but instead they took the short sighted option. I was going to say cheap but dont think Longy will come cheap. He is not excactly a signing to build a future SL winning team around is he ? I think you will get 1 half decent season out of him and you will be in the same situation this time next year'"
I agree with this man here and a few others who have responded with less enthusiasm.
Long is yet another player who has given his best years to another club. FC should be swigning players about to come into their own so that WE can have their best years. I'm also fed up with the phrase 'if he can stay injury free' - it seems that it's been said about most signings over the last year.
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| Quote ="Ovid"I'm also fed up with the phrase 'if he can stay injury free' - it seems that it's been said about most signings over the last year.'"
SL Games played last 6 years
2009 12 out of 14
2008 23
2007 17
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2004 12 (year he got a ban??)
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Dont seemed to have missed that many
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| I think he is exactly what we need, an organiser who can change a game
would I have liked to him to have been younger? of course...but hopefully we will use him effectively and let Horne do all the running whilst Long organises
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| Quote ="rover49"Only a few days ago on here it was 'no way' or 'we don't want him' or 'past it'
Make your minds up.
FWIW, I think he is still a very good player, but it will be interesting to see HOW good he is when he is in a team light years behind the one he came from. He never cut it in a GB or Wigan shirt.'"
Didnt get the chance at Wigan....was shipped out rather quickly when he was there.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"SL Games played last 6 years
2009 12 out of 14
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2004 12 (year he got a ban??)
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Dont seemed to have missed that many'"
We have some players with worse records than that.
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| I think your judgements have been clouded due to Thorman being your current scrum half.
Like Stan Butler said regarding Michael Dobson, the same applies with Sean Long but even more so; obviously a good wage packet - If it pays off, shrewd but still short term, backfires and you are stuck with a thorn (or should that be Sean) in your side.
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| Radio Humberside have just played an interview with Long 
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"I think your judgements have been clouded due to Thorman being your current scrum half.
Like Stan Butler said regarding Michael Dobson, the same applies with Sean Long but even more so; obviously a good wage packet - If it pays off, shrewd but still short term, backfires and you are stuck with a thorn (or should that be Sean) in your side.'"
Would rovers fans have been happy with signging Long if you did not have Dobson there?
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| A bit of experience is what we need. It's only fair to give him a chance. If at this time next year he's either injured or playing badly then have a go at him.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Would rovers fans have been happy with signging Long if you did not have Dobson there?'"
You mean if James Webster had been replaced by Sean Long?
On a 1 year deal, considering it was last year, and when he was in better form maybe.
Had we announced the signing of Long now, I wouldn't call it as a forward step but a quick fix. I'd still someone such as Myler from Salford and therefore underwhelmed for the long term plans if we got Long instead.
Initially, it's a decent signing, but for long term aspirations, and in 2 years -another scrum half will be needed as he won't play at the very top level at 34/35.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"So .... are FC in the HUNT for a new fullback?'"
Yes big money has been offered at 1 and a prop,plus also jordan Turner at Salford been tracked
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| Quote ="Danny 2"great signing if you ask me
he knows super league like the back of his hand
he is a well known kicker and he will give us the organising we need'"
Sorry pal but his kicking is crap and so is his organising.
Hull have signed 2 OAPs for next year.
It's big risk but IMO saints did rite in letting long go.
A change of club may do him some good. He still better than what you got at moment though.
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"You mean if James Webster had been replaced by Sean Long?
On a 1 year deal, considering it was last year, and when he was in better form maybe.
Had we announced the signing of Long now, I wouldn't call it as a forward step but a quick fix. I'd still someone such as Myler from Salford and therefore underwhelmed for the long term plans if we got Long instead.
Initially, it's a decent signing, but for long term aspirations, and in 2 years -another scrum half will be needed as he won't play at the top level at 37/38.'"
I dont get this every team signs older players who will need replacing in a couple of years, you have done that with Fozzard, signing Long for two years gives us the chance to develop a young halfback or keep an eye out for another one.
Despite his age, Long is in the top 3 Scrum halfs in SL.
Saints wanted him to stay, but (rightly) only offered him a one year deal to keep Eastmond and others happy.
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| Quote ="BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff"You mean if James Webster had been replaced by Sean Long?
On a 1 year deal, considering it was last year, and when he was in better form maybe.
Had we announced the signing of Long now, I wouldn't call it as a forward step but a quick fix. I'd still someone such as Myler from Salford and therefore underwhelmed for the long term plans if we got Long instead.
Initially, it's a decent signing, but for long term aspirations, and in 2 years -another scrum half will be needed as he won't play at the very top level at 34/35.'"
It gives us 2 years to get one though, people were even suggesting keeping Thorman for another year (before the Leeds game) and going all out for a quality SH for 2011. Myler is by far one of the most over rated players in SL and is not what we need for next season, he plays a similar role to when Horne plays stand off.
Now for the people knocking the signing of Long, who gives a flying one about his age, he still controls things for Saints, is their main kicker in general play and is a big mouthed cocky scrum half. Now call me naiave but isn't that exactly what EVERYONE on here as been crying out for? The other major plus point for me is that he will be here for all of the pre-season campaign, could the same be said for any Aussie we could have possibly signed?
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| All this talk of Orford, Thurston etc. I think some of you guys are getting suckered by agent talk. It's VERY unusual for a genuine top-tier and prime Aussie scrum half to make the jump to the UK. In Australia these guys are feted like movie stars and live the life of such, whilst over here they are media nobodies.
Orford might say he loves SL more than having the Corrs girls lick ice cream off his nads - but the chances are he's just trying to secure himself a better deal in the NRL by initiating a Dutch auction.
For a team which has lacked a genuine scrum half (to crippling effect) for some time - a slightly past prime Long is infinitely better than an Aussie assurance that isn't worth the paper it's written on.
What happens if Hull hold out on an assurance from either Aussie and it falls through (very likely). Long has gone to another club and you're no better off than you are now. Indeed, you're worse off because you have less time to delve into the bag of second-tier scrum halves (see Thorman).
No brainer if you ask me.
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| Quote ="St pete"Sorry pal but his kicking is crap and so is his organising.
Hull have signed 2 OAPs for next year.
It's big risk but IMO saints did rite in letting long go.
A change of club may do him some good. He still better than what you got at moment though.'"
Maybe we could have him straight away then seeing as you clearly don't need him.
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| Hull FC board:
Quote ="St pete"Sorry pal but his kicking is crap and so is his organising.
Hull have signed 2 OAPs for next year.
It's big risk but IMO saints did rite in letting long go.
A change of club may do him some good. He still better than what you got at moment though.'"
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Quote ="St pete"It's going to be intresting who saints play scrum half next year. IMO wheeler has proved he can hold his own but eastmond has not had the game time to prove it.
Not sure if wheeler and eastmond would make good halfback partner for pryce.
We need a ball playing 7 who can move us round the pitch and control the game.
It's shame long didn't do 1 more year.'"

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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Hull FC board:
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| Quote ="Mugwump"All this talk of Orford, Thurston etc. I think some of you guys are getting suckered by agent talk. It's VERY unusual for a genuine top-tier and prime Aussie scrum half to make the jump to the UK. In Australia these guys are feted like movie stars and live the life of such, whilst over here they are media nobodies.
Orford might say he loves SL more than having the Corrs girls lick ice cream off his nads - but the chances are he's just trying to secure himself a better deal in the NRL by initiating a Dutch auction.
For a team which has lacked a genuine scrum half (to crippling effect) for some time - a slightly past prime Long is infinitely better than an Aussie assurance that isn't worth the paper it's written on.
What happens if Hull hold out on an assurance from either Aussie and it falls through (very likely). Long has gone to another club and you're no better off than you are now. Indeed, you're worse off because you have less time to delve into the bag of second-tier scrum halves (see Thorman).
No brainer if you ask me.'"
Wire will be in the market for Orford.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"It gives us 2 years to get one though, people were even suggesting keeping Thorman for another year (before the Leeds game) and going all out for a quality SH for 2011. Myler is by far one of the most over rated players in SL and is not what we need for next season, he plays a similar role to when Horne plays stand off.
Now for the people knocking the signing of Long, who gives a flying one about his age, he still controls things for Saints, is their main kicker in general play and is a big mouthed cocky scrum half. Now call me naiave but isn't that exactly what EVERYONE on here as been crying out for? The other major plus point for me is that he will be here for all of the pre-season campaign, could the same be said for any Aussie we could have possibly signed?'"
Exactly. People knocking Long's age should look at the league table. As he said before on BBC website he never misses a training session and feels physically in good shape. I don't think he's as good as he was 6 years ago but is exactly the type of player we need and he's British.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Hull FC board:
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nice research
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| go back to the Sean Long thread on your board last thursday! 
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