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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Academy sides don’t come into the grading as it’s all based on Marketing KPI’s.
So don’t bother running an Academy (and therefore provide players for the future of the game), just get some LED advertising boards.'"
Surely the academy part feeds in to on field performance? Wigan have the best academy in the country and is reflected in their success this year. I can see the positives in IMG in that it's actually made Cas and Wakey make improvements which are long overdue, but at the same time, disappointing that we're just going to end up with the exact same teams that were in the league in 2023 for 2025...without TV deals, attendances, being able to score bigger than 13th for performance, how do those outside the top flight make it into SL now? |
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| Quote: Cuddleclub "Just shows the criteria is awful, get punished for having a good stadium, Goole get better catchment area points, penalised for two clubs in the city….the list goes on. Shambles.'"
But Cas and Wakey got grade A despite losing catchment area points for being close to each other and Fev too? |
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| Quote: Steve0 "Surely the academy part feeds in to on field performance? Wigan have the best academy in the country and is reflected in their success this year. I can see the positives in IMG in that it's actually made Cas and Wakey make improvements which are long overdue, but at the same time, disappointing that we're just going to end up with the exact same teams that were in the league in 2023 for 2025...without TV deals, attendances, being able to score bigger than 13th for performance, how do those outside the top flight make it into SL now?'"
I'd be interested to see what happens to Cas' revenue per game after the ground tweaks too. Like have they managed charge more for seats, are the corporate lounges busier, are sponsors queuing up for a spot on the big screen...if they haven't then this box ticking has been a nonsense. |
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| Quote: UllFC "I'd be interested to see what happens to Cas' revenue per game after the ground tweaks too. Like have they managed charge more for seats, are the corporate lounges busier, are sponsors queuing up for a spot on the big screen...if they haven't then this box ticking has been a nonsense.'"
Agree it'll be interesting to see, sounds like there's some ambition with the recent takeover by Martin Jepson, same with Wakey too, had an easy year being the big fish in a small pond, but will their crowds continue to hold up if they begin to struggle in SL again? |
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I’m not too fussed anyway about been downgraded. Scraping the provisional grade A licence was the worst thing to happen for the club, it literally gave AP the licence to throw the towel in for a season that’s likely done irreversible damage to the club long term. Maybe in future it’s for the best for both Adam and the club in general that we are kept on our toes. Also for perspective on the performance thing, Championship or not that Wakey team this season would have hammered us.
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "I’m not too fussed anyway about been downgraded. Scraping the provisional grade A licence was the worst thing to happen for the club, it literally gave AP the licence to throw the towel in for a season that’s likely done irreversible damage to the club long term. Maybe in future it’s for the best for both Adam and the club in general that we are kept on our toes. Also for perspective on the performance thing, Championship or not that Wakey team this season would have hammered us.'"
Agree, we also got lazy during the last franchising era circa 2009. Rule/Kath would tell us we were GradeA and all was good then sign Thorman to lead the team around  |
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Grade B confirmed which I have no problem with but the fact Cas and Wakey have got a Grade A shows the grading system is a joke.
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Have you seen the things we have been downgraded on?? How many people watch our games on TV (when we play at 3pm on a Saturday we compete against the full football calendar, so I feel that is unfair) and one of the others is the quality of the LED screens! Laughable
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https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/10/23/ ... -for-2025/
Interesting we did OK on Finance. 
People can complain about the criteria but I actually think it's humbling, and helpful, that we've dropped out of the top tier. The club's performance over he last 5 years has completely failed its supporters. An objective grading supporting this fact is powerful. Without significant on field improvements we will go backwards in several other measures - attendance, stadium utilisation, social media engagement. Personally I have very limited confidence in the current leadership that this will be delivered.
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https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/10/23/ ... -for-2025/
Interesting we did OK on Finance.
People can complain about the criteria but I actually think it's humbling, and helpful, that we've dropped out of the top tier. The club's performance over he last 5 years has completely failed its supporters. An objective grading supporting this fact is powerful. Without significant on field improvements we will go backwards in several other measures - attendance, stadium utilisation, social media engagement. Personally I have very limited confidence in the current leadership that this will be delivered.
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "Have you seen the things we have been downgraded on?? How many people watch our games on TV (when we play at 3pm on a Saturday we compete against the full football calendar, so I feel that is unfair) and one of the others is the quality of the LED screens! Laughable'"
The deduction for points of the big screens is just an embarrassment. As the email says, we're the only club who have. 2 screens never mind 1, and we've been punished because by the sounds of it they're actually too big (to get the desired pixel pitch).
B is what the club deserve for the on field performance (granted caused by off field decisions) over the last few years, but some of the downgradings for things like our screens or TV viewing figures are just ridiculous. |
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "Have you seen the things we have been downgraded on?? How many people watch our games on TV (when we play at 3pm on a Saturday we compete against the full football calendar, so I feel that is unfair) and one of the others is the quality of the LED screens! Laughable'"
Nothing for youth development either, so the usual clubs will just sack it off with no consequences. Imagine being punished for TV viewing figures, the sooner IMG are gone the better for our game. |
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| Quote: Yippee try yay "Nothing for youth development either, so the usual clubs will just sack it off with no consequences. Imagine being punished for TV viewing figures, the sooner IMG are gone the better for our club.'"
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| Quote: happyjack "Edited for accuracy.'"
So you think the grading criteria will work? You don't have to invest in your youth setup to help provide a bigger player pool in the country but as long as you have a screen with a certain amount of pixels your doing alright? Maybe we should change our games to 9am on a Sunday morning as there's no football on at that time. |
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The club have no one to blame but themselves. All those years investing in the academy. Could have just bought some LED boards with the IMG preferred pixel count.
Cas being a Grade A club literally sums our sport up.
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As garbage as the grading system is, the downgrading will at least be a metaphor for the malaise at the club over the last five years.
Let’s hope change is coming.
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