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Think the fact hes been off loaded by Warrington says a lot about him. Great talent when he wants to play but seems to prefer to put more effort in off field than on it.
Don't think we'd ever have been in for him at any point due to attitude and professionalism which was supposedly why him & Lineham were off loaded.
Westerman going & the improvement in the squad in particular Watts are no coincidence.

Think he'll be a player that had great potential but never reaches it.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Toronto have Dave Taylor, Krasniqi, Sims, Westerman, Ackers, and MoiMoi in the pack in addition to Josh McCrone and Brierley in the halves? Full time and with great backing you really wouldn't want to face them in the MPG.'"


They'll be in the top 3 of the Middle 8's. Likely to be two Super League teams in the MPG I think. Widnes and Salford my early bets.

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Glad we stayed clear of him

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Quote: Cardiff_05 "They'll be in the top 3 of the Middle 8's. Likely to be two Super League teams in the MPG I think. Widnes and Salford my early bets.'"

On the basis of that pack! not been funny, but its really not as impressive as the names suggest, will they all be fit come the middle 8s, think they'll be in the million pound game against widnes and lose, but get in super league anyway, with teams been added the following season

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Quote: Chris71 "Think the fact hes been off loaded by Warrington says a lot about him. Great talent when he wants to play but seems to prefer to put more effort in off field than on it.
Don't think we'd ever have been in for him at any point due to attitude and professionalism which was supposedly why him & Lineham were off loaded.
Westerman going & the improvement in the squad in particular Watts are no coincidence.

Think he'll be a player that had great potential but never reaches it.'"


If you read the Warrington statement (on their official website) theres a thanks for all you've done but its a good move as it frees up cap to allow recruitment to better the culture of the club.

That sounds like he never changed his reputation for enjoying his downtime a little too much.

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Quote: Tinkerman23 "On the basis of that pack! not been funny, but its really not as impressive as the names suggest, will they all be fit come the middle 8s, think they'll be in the million pound game against widnes and lose, but get in super league anyway, with teams been added the following season'"


This surely won’t be the end of their recruitment. If they are prepared to spend £130k on Westerman, anything else could happen. Their sole goal is Super League rugby and they’ll want to get there with a bang, and guarantee it. The MPG is too risky: Toronto will ensure they are in the top 3.

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If indeed we are after a loose /2nd row forward it has to be better than W esterman

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Quote: jeffers "If indeed we are after a loose /2nd row forward it has to be better than W esterman'"


We got a better back rower coming back in 2018 anyway, Dean Hadley.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "
One scenario is that we go
Would think Hadley would be used in a similar way to Washbrook, take some pressure off Houghton, rather have Minichello on from the start with Bowden and Hadley et al off the bench.

As for Westerman, unless we are losing a big name we don't have the cap space, even with the increase in the cap, even if we somehow did I think watts at 13 or even Hadley is a better bet.

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the best piece on westerman was from a Hull fan on our board not long after he signed for us.
We all knew he had some talent (as well as a fondness for the sauce) but this poster (cant remember who) said simply along the lines of
"Hes a good strong forward and a skillful ball player but just seems to get in the way too much"

and that perfectly sums up his wire career... we never heard any stuff about his Social side and his efforts didnt show that, but he simply wanted the ball too much.
Which undoubtedly affected our halves...especially Dec Patton in my opinion. it was great watching him bust a gut to try and crack the opposition .... but hes not a half back, and it cost us big time last year....

£130k for him after we paid £150k..... im happy with that..... he helped us win a LLS and got us to two finals so not bad business.....

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Sneyd became a far more influential player after Westerman left that’s for sure
Quote: the flying biscuit "the best piece on westerman was from a Hull fan on our board not long after he signed for us.
We all knew he had some talent (as well as a fondness for the sauce) but this poster (cant remember who) said simply along the lines of
"Hes a good strong forward and a skillful ball player but just seems to get in the way too much"

and that perfectly sums up his wire career... we never heard any stuff about his Social side and his efforts didnt show that, but he simply wanted the ball too much.
Which undoubtedly affected our halves...especially Dec Patton in my opinion. it was great watching him bust a gut to try and crack the opposition .... but hes not a half back, and it cost us big time last year....

£130k for him after we paid £150k..... im happy with that..... he helped us win a LLS and got us to two finals so not bad business.....'"


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I quite liked Westerman, but felt we were forever waiting for him to come of age.
He just hasn't delivered on all that youthful promise of the exceptional talent of his early Cas days. I guess he never will.

Ironic isn't it, and what price a crystal ball, when you think he left us to win silverware at a team who were winning silverware.
Still surprised he's gone to Toronto though.

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I think he plays in the wrong position, he would be better in the second row. Mike McMeakin is similar build with some would say the same ball skills but a much more effective player.

Quote: Uppo58 "I quite liked Westerman, but felt we were forever waiting for him to come of age.
He just hasn't delivered on all that youthful promise of the exceptional talent of his early Cas days. I guess he never will.

Ironic isn't it, and what price a crystal ball, when you think he left us to win silverware at a team who were winning silverware.
Still surprised he's gone to Toronto though.'"


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Quote: steve_norton "I think he plays in the wrong position, he would be better in the second row. Mike McMeakin is similar build with some would say the same ball skills but a much more effective player.

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Think your bang on. If he concentrated on been a good 2nd rower, rather than wanting to be the main man, involved in every play.

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