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| Quote: westdock boy in oz "Wel they aren't going to Knock on Pearson's door CV in hand
Over here ex 1st team coaches currently not coaching 1st grade
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d. Anderson
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a. griffin off contract
Not all good - but an improvement'"
D. Anderson is head of referees I believe.
S. Folkes is out of the sport last I remember.
P. Gentle is assistant of Parramatta Eels.
P. Sharp recently left Cronulla and is expected to go to Parramatta Eels.
W. Bennett is expected to resign with St George.
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| Id take Sharpe back in a heartbeat. He was never given enough time.
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| Quote: Freddie Miller. "A few days ago an article here discussed Super League teams that should be considered for a place in the proposed expanded World Club Championship competition in 2015. It said that the 5 "Marquee Clubs" should be considered -- Wigan, Leeds, St Helens, Warrington and Hull FC. Obviously there is still respect for the club over here.'"
You're having a Giraffe, where's the link to this article, Bratfud have a better history in Super League, Salford have more money so what do FC offer? FC was omitted from the inaugural Competition so pray tell who is this mystery man who is so in the know he speaks for the whole of SL, or could it just be someone blowing smoke up his own arris.
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| Quote: wudmansir "Quote: wudmansir "The best thing that could happen now would be for the players to do to Radford what they did to Gentle at Huddersfield last season.'"
But that would be no good if they did it and Pearson got rid of Radford and brought in a top coach and the players didn't like his style then they would do it again!! Radford needs to go but this set of players need to take a lot of the blame aswell'"
Need to have a clear out of players as well as the entire coaching staff. Time to get rid of the old guard, regardless of what service they have given in the past. People talk about giving Horne a coaching role, but it seems to be out of a sense of loyalty or as a reward for past service, not because they think he will be a good coach.
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| Quote: phil webbo "You're having a Giraffe, where's the link to this article, Bratfud have a better history in Super League, Salford have more money so what do FC offer? FC was omitted from the inaugural Competition so pray tell who is this mystery man who is so in the know he speaks for the whole of SL, or could it just be someone blowing smoke up his own arris.'"
Not bitter, no.
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| Quote: Diogenes "Need to have a clear out of players as well as the entire coaching staff. Time to get rid of the old guard, regardless of what service they have given in the past. People talk about giving Horne a coaching role, but it seems to be out of a sense of loyalty or as a reward for past service, not because they think he will be a good coach.'"
like you say, far too much sentiment, Horne has earned a lot of money out of FC, he has done nothing to suggest he has coaching credentials, he can't even improve his own kicking game in 10 years.
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| Quote: Diogenes "Need to have a clear out of players as well as the entire coaching staff. Time to get rid of the old guard, regardless of what service they have given in the past. People talk about giving Horne a coaching role, but it seems to be out of a sense of loyalty or as a reward for past service, not because they think he will be a good coach.'"
Spot on post, Longy did wonders for saints, but they didn't keep him on as coaching staff, because they felt sorry for him, it's called business not charity.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "Come on live in the now that was a different era and you cannot compare the 2.
Your endless positivity regardless of how bad we are is embarrassing as is your berating of others who disagree with you.
A club our size with our fan base and financial backing should not be scrapping out for a bottom 4 finish.
We are a joke as is our coach and Pearson needs to act now.
If you're this positive because you want the best fan award you're welcome to it. Wear your pin badge with pride.
Me personally I'm well fooked off now. I'm no less of a fan then you but aren't prepared to continue putting my money blindly into this club when they simply don't deserve it.'"
Sorry for being positive but what good will having a his sy fit on here do....nothing.Radford is going nowhere so we just have to get on with it.We don't have a god given right to be anywhere in the league at all.......look at Bulls with all the success they had..would you want that...me no.....we have tried splashing the cash and hasn't worked so now trying to build from within with varying degrees of success.Radford isn't the man for the job. But AP won't get rid yet as I think he wants to see how we go next season with the halfs we have finally got.Im brasses off as much as the nxt fan and want to see the day like we had in Cardiff again..that's why I still go..just for that 1 day that makes it oh so worth it....I'm not a super fan at all. I haven't been to an away matches and I miss the Thursday matches due to work so I'm hardly the best fan but I just don't see the point in getting worked up...I'm already looking forward to 2015 as it can't be any bloody worse.
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| Hull are not a top club. Never will be at the level Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington are now, and as much as I hate it Salfords lottery win will put them way ahead of us too. Maybe in the past a team could be successful for a period built on a crop of youngsters or appointing a good coach but I don't think this can happen in the modern era.
The sooner this is realised and expectations are managed accordingly the better, looking at it on the surface you'd expect Hull to be a big club, a big following with the potential to be even bigger, and the grassroots structures in the area produces good players, but for whatever reasons in 15 years back in the top flight we've not really progressed much from we're we started, granted, the teams assembled between 2004-2007 played some decent stuff and obviously won the cup. Even after numerous changes at coaching/board level this is still the case, Id say competing in the SL is about our level, and we're doing that.
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| Quote: Carmine Galante "Hull are not a top club. Never will be at the level Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington are now, and as much as I hate it Salfords lottery win will put them way ahead of us too. Maybe in the past a team could be successful for a period built on a crop of youngsters or appointing a good coach but I don't think this can happen in the modern era.
The sooner this is realised and expectations are managed accordingly the better, looking at it on the surface you'd expect Hull to be a big club, a big following with the potential to be even bigger, and the grassroots structures in the area produces good players, but for whatever reasons in 15 years back in the top flight we've not really progressed much from we're we started, granted, the teams assembled between 2004-2007 played some decent stuff and obviously won the cup. Even after numerous changes at coaching/board level this is still the case, Id say competing in the SL is about our level, and we're doing that.'"
We are not the Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool of rugby league. We are Newcastle Utd or Spurs; a team with passionate fans and a proud history, but in the recent past, perennial under-achievers. We will only change that by recruiting the best players, appointing the best coaches (irrespective of where they come from), developing our own talent and by ridding ourselves of the corrosive culture which has permeated the club for years.
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| Was told yesterday that both Hull clubs are being run into the ground, so Koukash can buy em out and MERGE em. RFL backing him and will play out of brand new stadium, hence Birds Eye.
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| Quote: Diogenes "We are not the Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool of rugby league. We are Newcastle Utd or Spurs; a team with passionate fans and a proud history, but in the recent past, perennial under-achievers. We will only change that by recruiting the best players, appointing the best coaches, developing our own talent and by ridding ourselves of the corrosive culture which has permeated the club for years.'"
Comparing Hull to Newcastle is pretty spot on. Big support but not a lot else.
Without irresponsible investment from a sugar daddy ( I wouldn't want that anyway) we'll never be a top club, even with it it's not the bee all and end all, look at how Warrington have had to build and build over 10 years, and although they have established themselves as one of the big boys, they'll be hoping for a bigger return then a couple of cups in the coming years.
I find it hard to see what Pearson see's in the club, it's a thankless task really.
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| We go round in circles appointing unproven Head Coaches,when their is no attack structure in place.
At this moment in time - IMO, Radford either needs more support on his backroom staff, ie an Attack Coach - or to be sacked.
The only time, to hire an unproven Head Coach, is when , the attacking structures are set in stone, then the Assistant continues with the same methods, preparations etc.
I dont buy into the theory, of changing player personnel annually, a good coach would mould a group of existing players into a team - Powell for one is an example of this.
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| Quote: weaver93 "We go round in circles appointing unproven Head Coaches,when their is no attack structure in place.
At this moment in time - IMO, Radford either needs more support on his backroom staff, ie an Attack Coach - or to be sacked.
The only time, to hire an unproven Head Coach, is when , the attacking structures are set in stone, then the Assistant continues with the same methods, preparations etc.
I dont buy into the theory, of changing player personnel annually, a good coach would mould a group of existing players into a team - Powell for one is an exam
ple of this.'"
Powell also had the luxury of Chase buggering off.
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| Quote: Armavinit "Was told yesterday that both Hull clubs are being run into the ground, so Koukash can buy em out and MERGE em. RFL backing him and will play out of brand new stadium, hence Birds Eye.'"
Which bright spark told you that?
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