If you are correct then for me, that is depressing.

does us all a favour wolfie and give Ja Rule Nobbys phone number....

Good to have you back, shame about the circumstances. Your post sums up my feelings since last season well too, the buzz I used to get from Hull FC has just died.

I don't think it has died in any of us, it's just in a coma. The appointment of a quality head coach could revive everyone.

Know exactly what you mean, wolfie. The strange thing is that in my head I'd been expecting a win and a big win last night as despite the fact we'd only won one of the last 8, Wakey have been through the wringer and we were at home with the likes of Fitz, Manu, Briscoe, Long, Westerman, Tickle all fit. It soon became clear that the Wigan game was a one-off in terms of intensity. Driving back the 75 miles to West Yorkshire was the first time in probably 6 years that I've questioned why we bother to organise our lives round following the club. Money is tight and I can see gates plummeting unless the club is seen to be taking some action here. Good to see you back on here BTW.

Same sentiments here Mrs B. We're off to London next week to visit a friend and I'm seriously debating whether to go to the game on Sunday. Flights are booked for the South of France for an anniversary holiday, which on current plans includes a drive to Perpignan for our game there. Not sure I want to now.

Yeah, that's probably a better description. We're all just waiting to hear the key phrase to make waking up worthwhile.

I'll raise you 120 miles back to Staffordshire

Seriously I agree with all you say and Wolfie before. After Crusaders then Wigan I thought we were progressing. Last night was the absolute pits. There is no way that team with that coach can go 5th or better this season. The lack of intensity was unreal after the previous week. The players looked lethargic and tired and the errors followed. There's a poor mindset and a poor level of fitness IMO. Wholesale change is needed.

also i forgot to say its not nice when the fans start arguing amongst themselfs as many people around me was doing,there is to many restless fans and things will only get worse,i was on the verge of diving on the pitch last night at the end,not sure what i was planing on doing tho once on there i was fuming and to be honest ive not calmed down yet,time to go out and have a few beers with a few gin chasers

Forgetting the other Agar "argument" for a moment but have any players left and really gone and excelled at other clubs?? I dont see any of the above as having really done so unless you count one game against us last night and Hall apparently having a resonable game against Salford. And despite being under a great coach according to some at Huddersfield I havent seen any real improvement in Graham Horne.

If they act now it's not too late. Nobby on a "rest of the year" deal as either coach or DOR (to save the board's face) if necessary. Would be loath to give him more than this at this point as I want the board to demonstrate their commitment to us fans by spending whatever it takes for the best coach available for next season. Please, God, not McNamara as there is no point in going through the pain for no gain.

Wolfie - you mentioned the well-paid players, do you now think Agar has taken them as far as he can? What do you think will happen on Monday?

Not sure what to think tbh,but agar doesnt deserve to be treat like last night and tbh things will only get worse,cant ever recal hearing anything like that,my take on it is that he will go,wether he leaves or be relieved of his duties i have no idea,rule wasnt there last night so ive no idea what his views will be.

Treat like what??? You mean the crowd voicing their opinion???