I respect your opinion and that of Carlotti completely.

For me both Horne and Yeaman have become too comfortable in their positions. I don't think that helps their own level of performance at all. Both are miles away from where they were when selected for GB. Sure what's happening around them will have an effect, however for me it is these senior players, and others, who have let us down the most this season in terms of level of performance.

ATEOTD all players should have to play for their place and be in on merit. If their performance is up to it they should be in. If not they should be out.

I was there last night and i cant think of a single thing Whiting did in all honesty. Its just seems people want to have him in the starting 13 and look for a way to pick him.

You can't think of a thing that he did? Were you spending too much time watching quins' kicking-tee carrier?

I cant think of anything he contributed towards its not as though he had a great kick return or set anything up with ball in hand.

His popularity amongst fans influnces their opinion on him as proved by the way people try to shoe horn him into their starting 13's.

Next season i cant see a place for him in our 17.

Actually, I thought he had a solid game. danny orr has one of the best short kicking games in SL and whiting never once looked troubled. Probably the fact that my heart was never in my mouth when the opposition put a kick in speaks volumes for how he played. He reads the game exceptionally well and looks well suited to any position he's played in. I can't really remember a player in my 30 years of watching the club who was so competent in such a range of positions

Well said. A top utility player who will play a lot of games during a season even if he isn't in any fan's starting 17.

Try saving tackle?

Probably the most astute comment you have ever made (imo). Excellent squad player, great guy but not a first 17 man.

Most would agree, its been said to death over the last year or so that he's a victim of his own utility and actually he isnt better than any of our players in any one position. He will get a run next season though because we WILL get injuries.

Exactly right.

Rich may not be first choice in any position if everyone is fit but the last few seasons tells us the scenario is extremely rare. We will unfortunately have injuries so players like Whiting in the squad are vital.