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Both teams are still miles off Saints, neither will challenge long term until they start producing top players from the academy. Rovers have improved and we have stagnated, but in reality neither are close to challenging the top teams.
Not convinced by Rovers yet, Coote is good but injury prone, their best player is leaving and they don't have any academy players that can make their 21 man squad despite injuries.
They were fortunate to sign the Bradford head of youth who poached their best academy players. He got his head turned as soon as a big club came calling, which might happen wity some players if they don't make the step up to the next level.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."neither will challenge long term until they start producing top players from the academy.'"
I know of a man with a 5-year plan, if that would be helpful? I belief it should work for any club, irrespective of their circumstance and budget, because sustained SL success is built on culture and bringing through youth rather than on money. You just have to do things ‘the right way’, apparently. |
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I'd take a 2 year plan, if Hodgson and Pearson planned it out and explained their reason, start phasing in young players in key positions and build for a couple of years.
Not sure other fans would have the patience and we need to keep fans coming to survive.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I'd take a 2 year plan, if Hodgson and Pearson planned it out and explained their reason, start phasing in young players in key positions and build for a couple of years.
Not sure other fans would have the patience and we need to keep fans coming to survive.'"
The majority of FC fans are patiently waiting for a run of wins. |
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Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I'd take a 2 year plan, if Hodgson and Pearson planned it out and explained their reason, start phasing in young players in key positions and build for a couple of years.
Not sure other fans would have the patience and we need to keep fans coming to survive.'"
A 2-year plan is much better than a 5-year plan, and explaining it to get buy in is very important. All we knew about our 5-year plan was its duration, that there were 10 key (and secret) objectives and that JP saw it was being a slow process.
https://hullkr.co.uk/insight-into-the-r ... e-peacock/
What if you don’t have many young players who are good enough at 18-20 years old now? One thing I think Peacock maybe had right was a 5-year lag for improvements to a youth system to start to bear fruit at first team level. I appreciate that you’re talking about phasing it in and I don’t doubt you have some good academy players. If you have enough and one or two who are very good, it could work.
Patience was a bit of buzzword among some Rovers fans ~10 years ago, in the Sandercock era, but it ran out fast at the end of his first season. I think you need to see some green shoots fairly swiftly.
The difference for Saints is that if a couple of youngsters in their 17 aren’t quite good enough or are still inconsistent, they just win by 12 instead of 24. |
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Quote Dave K.="Dave K."I'd take a 2 year plan, if Hodgson and Pearson planned it out and explained their reason, start phasing in young players in key positions and build for a couple of years.
Not sure other fans would have the patience and we need to keep fans coming to survive.'"
A 2-year plan is much better than a 5-year plan, and explaining it to get buy in is very important. All we knew about our 5-year plan was its duration, that there were 10 key (and secret) objectives and that JP saw it was being a slow process.
https://hullkr.co.uk/insight-into-the-r ... e-peacock/
What if you don’t have many young players who are good enough at 18-20 years old now? One thing I think Peacock maybe had right was a 5-year lag for improvements to a youth system to start to bear fruit at first team level. I appreciate that you’re talking about phasing it in and I don’t doubt you have some good academy players. If you have enough and one or two who are very good, it could work.
Patience was a bit of buzzword among some Rovers fans ~10 years ago, in the Sandercock era, but it ran out fast at the end of his first season. I think you need to see some green shoots fairly swiftly.
The difference for Saints is that if a couple of youngsters in their 17 aren’t quite good enough or are still inconsistent, they just win by 12 instead of 24. | |
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Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"A 2-year plan is much better than a 5-year plan, and explaining it to get buy in is very important. All we knew about our 5-year plan was its duration, that there were 10 key (and secret) objectives and that JP saw it was being a slow process.
https://hullkr.co.uk/insight-into-the-r ... e-peacock/
What if you don’t have many young players who are good enough at 18-20 years old now? One thing I think Peacock maybe had right was a 5-year lag for improvements to a youth system to start to bear fruit at first team level. I appreciate that you’re talking about phasing it in and I don’t doubt you have some good academy players. If you have enough and one or two who are very good, it could work.
Patience was a bit of buzzword among some Rovers fans ~10 years ago, in the Sandercock era, but it ran out fast at the end of his first season. I think you need to see some green shoots fairly swiftly.
The difference for Saints is that if a couple of youngsters in their 17 aren’t quite good enough or are still inconsistent, they just win by 12 instead of 24.'"
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Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"A 2-year plan is much better than a 5-year plan, and explaining it to get buy in is very important. All we knew about our 5-year plan was its duration, that there were 10 key (and secret) objectives and that JP saw it was being a slow process.
https://hullkr.co.uk/insight-into-the-r ... e-peacock/
What if you don’t have many young players who are good enough at 18-20 years old now? One thing I think Peacock maybe had right was a 5-year lag for improvements to a youth system to start to bear fruit at first team level. I appreciate that you’re talking about phasing it in and I don’t doubt you have some good academy players. If you have enough and one or two who are very good, it could work.
Patience was a bit of buzzword among some Rovers fans ~10 years ago, in the Sandercock era, but it ran out fast at the end of his first season. I think you need to see some green shoots fairly swiftly.
The difference for Saints is that if a couple of youngsters in their 17 aren’t quite good enough or are still inconsistent, they just win by 12 instead of 24.'"
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"What about Paul Lakin's new 7 year plan? And his famous #thinktank ?'"
For redeveloping the ground etc? Don’t know much about it, but no red flags so far. Hopefully they’ll find the appropriate balance in employing highly experienced and competent architects and contractors, with enthusiastic young local workers getting an opportunity to develop. The Totally Wicked Stadium was built by Barr Construction Limited, who are based in the West of Scotland, and not a group of St Helens teens who demonstrated promise with Meccano.
I’ve gone too far the other way now, haven’t I? Developing young players is very valuable, but isn’t some sort of panacea. It is not the key difference between the successful teams that win the GF every year and the rest, or at least not the most important one.
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Derby stats - our top metre maker was Josh Griffin - 137m, 26 tackles, 3 tackle busts. Only Coote and Hall made more metres in the match.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Derby stats - our top metre maker was Josh Griffin - 137m, 26 tackles, 3 tackle busts. Only Coote and Hall made more metres in the match.'" There's no point carrying the ball all that distance if you're gonna drop it at the end. |
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| Quote giddyupoldfella="giddyupoldfella"There's no point carrying the ball all that distance if you're gonna drop it at the end.'"
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| Quote giddyupoldfella="giddyupoldfella"There's no point carrying the ball all that distance if you're gonna drop it at the end.'"
Well he made 2 errors. Just saying he's a scapegoat of choice but contributed a lot of metres |
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He's not a scapegoat, he's a player not in form. Who's currently putting his team under alot of pressure with sloppy errors.
Quite rightly not in the squad after the rovers game.
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