I agree that it is too early, but that to me says that England had come knocking and teh board wanted to act fast to keep him. And I'm not saying people can't/shouldn't discuss it, I'm just growing tired of all the so called experts telling us about Agar being a failure. Give it till the end of the season because he hasn't done all that much wrong so far this year.

Just to put things straight Fc are favs tomorrow with billy hills.

Well done to mr rule and the hull fc board on signing up the best coach in Sl.

So they are. Rovers however are favourites with Ladbrokes.

rlIan Millward thinks we are faves just.rl

You are a right to a certain degree, most of the criticism has been constructive but there has been a fair amount unwarranted personal abuse also.

I like many other think he is doing a decent job so far this season and recruited well last season, the question is whether or not he is capable of taking us to the very top, which is where we should be aiming. Only time will tell I guess but if he gets top 6 this season then that has to be regarded as success considering where we finished last season.

I dont get this whole finishing 6th is a sucess mentality people have, with the playing roster we have 6th should be classed as a failure.

same here, a 6th place finish shouldn't be called success, progress from the last two seasons maybe, only if we win a trophy we should be calling it a successful season

I don't think our squad is that good (yet) personally. Where do you think we should be finishing?

4th that said i personally dont think we will even make 6th.

The similarities to last season are alarming as it seems yet again we have been 'found out' by oppositions due to the way we play to the same structures week in week out and never deviate from it. In tomorrows game all we will keep seeing in Rovers 20 is a left shift with Long having to option of hitting Manu/Hame flat or go back door to Tansey on a wedge. I'll be stunned if we dont see that structure at least 8 times in the game on tackle 3.

Success is maybe the wrong word, but it would certainly be progress after our previous two seasons. You can't just go from bottom four to top four.

At the risk of being pedantic, Catalan Dragons did (they actually went bottom 3 to top 3, although that was in the 12 team league).

I honestly can't see how we have the 4th best squad in SL. We only have one (injured) winger for a start. And the rest of the outside backs are a bit hit and miss.

two and a half more years of their being an elephant in the room!