What if Hall was coached by a Mcguire or a Nathan Brown??

Do you think, he could be a good centre??

But no credit to Agar?

He has huge potential and I do believe he can be a better player. The thing is it is not down to just the coaching team, the player has to want to improve. Any slight error seems to really affect his confidence and he needs to toughen up a bit mentally imo. Remember he was also coached by Sharp and showed no real improvement under him too.

The one time he did improve was at Widnes but that was not to do with Cullen imo it was down to the fact he was playing at a lower competition level.

When we have a good structure,good line speed and players in support,
and our passing is crisper, I'll credit Agar.

One swallow doesnt make a summer!!

Regarding mental toughness,and confidence, that comes from the Manager to instill it into the player.( but like you say,the player has to want to improve.)

Brian Smith, was very good at doing that with young players, and also with less average players,than we have now at our disposal.

I never said it did however when we lose it lets all bag Agar time, yet when we win it's all credit to the players

Ah I thought it would be Agar's fault.

It has to come form within. Look at the amount of coaches Senior and Sinfield have played under or players like Wellens and Cunningham, it's about the players and what they are made of. Hall has the ability but he has to get tougher and has to make better decisions.

Humberside misunderstood Agar he said,

"Too many penalties going on around O'Meley"

He did not say O'Meley was giving penalties away. I thought he was rather saying other players around O'Meley were giving away penalties.

6, has had one good game and a few poor ones, Hall has been poor-average the last few weeks.

Agar cant win, most fans want Hall dropped he does so, we win and he still gets critised.

Hall has too many weaknesses, not just his defence.

Poor handling.
Poor decsion making with ball in hand.
Lazy, when helping the team out.

Maybe a chance of club and coach will do him good, but he has worked under 3 coachs now and still has hit is supposed potential.

Seemed odd to me when he said it. Couldn't work out if he meant o'meley or the team as a whole

fully agree, I've been one of halls biggests fans but I feel that a dual regristration maybe the way to go.

Sorry Paul but the bit about being at a lower level just isnt true........Cullen coached him right and he improved....that was from the mouth of a Widnes player at the time Hall was there.

Jesus...more spin than Shane Warene.......They are bottom for a reason and its about time we beat a low team....the 3 other teams to beat us at the bottom didnt have the pack and best benches but they still did it......the returning players made Agars job easier but still wont stop you getting your crusty sock out whilst writing it up in your diary.

Just watched the highlights. I await your post giving Agar some credit, because we improved a lot in all those areas IMO. Our first try in particular is a gem.

As for Hall... I've defended him plenty, but so far this season he's been disappointing to say the least. The last couple of performances were more than enough to justify him being dropped IMO. Up to him now to fight for his place.

We beat the worst team (by some distance IMO) in SL, we have been garbage for weeks leading to the win. A long way to go before we start dishing out 'credit' IMO.