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Quote: K-Diddy "Last then completely failed at Castleford before getting the boot. He wasn’t the answer.'"


He inherited Radders legacy of giving his mates big contracts at two different clubs. Not advocating a return of Last but of the recent coaches he has been treated the harshest. I'd take 2020's 6th place and CC and Playoff semi's right now.

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Quote: UllFC "He inherited Radders legacy of giving his mates big contracts at two different clubs. Not advocating a return of Last but of the recent coaches he has been treated the harshest. I'd take 2020's 6th place and CC and Playoff semi's right now.'"


He did but if we’re blaming Smith & Gene as a collective for Hull’s failings (rightly so) then Last has to take some blame for Radford’s failings as his assistant. Especially since it was at 2 clubs.

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Anyone who thinks Andy Last is the answer or even was first time around then they are on crystal meth

It seems anyone who’s been near the Club is tainted goods

The only answer is a Head Coach who’s so ambitious he doesn’t need man managing by AP , as AP can’t manage a morning shoite never mind a Head Coach

Also a new Head Coach who’s hung around discipline and ambition to win , not ambition to try hard if you lose

Who’s the best number 2 at Storm for example
That’s what we need

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Who’s the best number 2 at Storm for example
That’s what we need'"


Obviously it's not that simple, but essentially that is what we need. Someone who has worked under a Bellamy, Cleary, Robinson etc, is highly regarded, and is now ready to take that step to being a first team coach. I don't even mind if they come here for a couple of years and then go back home. We just need someone who can set us off on the right path. Much like McGuire and Holbrook did for Wigan and Saints.

Granted this job is probably far tougher than the jobs those two inherited.

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The players he has brought in are diabolical.Three fat forwards who struggle to play 15 mins if they stay on the pitch,all 3 must be this years must the worst overseas signings of the season in the whole of superleague.I thought tex hoy was terrific and I believe he was dropped the previous week,correct me if im wrong..
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Quote: des lawson "The players he has brought in are diabolical.Three fat forwards who struggle to play 15 mins if they stay on the pitch,all 3 must be this years must the worst overseas signings of the season in the whole of superleague.
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The agent that sold Okunbor and Pele to us must not be able to believe their luck

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That was really bad.
Tony Smith has a history of turning round every club he's been at.
We might be the club who finally breaks him. It would prove what a basket case our club is.
Not sure what the answer is, or if there is one at all. There are so many weaknesses across the squad.

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Quote: des lawson "The players he has brought in are diabolical.Three fat forwards who struggle to play 15 mins if they stay on the pitch,all 3 must be this years must the worst overseas signings of the season in the whole of superleague.
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Think that's a bit harsh on EseEse a few times today he drew men in and looked for the offload but mostly there's noone there in support.

Okonbur was poor, made no impact at all and Pele just seems wild and unfortunately with the ref changes we don't need wild erratic players.

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Quote: des lawson "The players he has brought in are diabolical.Three fat forwards who struggle to play 15 mins if they stay on the pitch,all 3 must be this years must the worst overseas signings of the season in the whole of superleague.I thought tex hoy was terrific and I believe he was dropped the previous week,correct me if im wrong..
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Ese'ese hasn't done too much wrong, and whilst Pele has had a disastrous start discipline wise I do think he looks a handful when he's on, so the jury is out there for me. Okunbor looks like a pudding though. I'd be interested to see what he's like on the wing. If he's no better then yeah he will go down as a terrible signing.

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Quote: UllFC "Think that's a bit harsh on EseEse a few times today he drew men in and looked for the offload but mostly there's noone there in support.

Okonbur was poor, made no impact at all and Pele just seems wild and unfortunately with the ref changes we don't need wild erratic players.'"


Okunbor just seems too chilled out, most of his drives seem to have minimal effort and his tackle stats are probably boosted by him just being the third man in sticking the odd arm in here and there. Pele reminds me of Dylan Napa at Catalan, too much of a hothead and Catalan eventually got rid after one season

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Ese'ese I think will go on to be a good signing. Pele could be if he tightens his defence. He's good going forward but his defence in the middle today was poor in the second half. He got ran past 2 or 3 times and is slow to turn. Good effort chasing back on one of them though to help stop a try with Hoy. Thought he was unfortunate with his yellow. One of those where Dwyer had his back to him so Pele can't see the exact moment the ball has been released. He was committed to the tackle before the ball even left Dwyers hands in my opinion. And Dwyer milked the absolute out of it. There's been plenty of late shots this year that haven't been given as a yellow card, probably some not even given as a penalty.

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Clubs in a lot of bother, biggest issue is that whilst the players don’t seem to be d, the fans and me included don’t care either. No support, no vitriol, nothing. I think we need to start something somehow. (Avoiding on pitch executions )

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Pele will come good imo, he's a young kid moved to the other side of the world playing in a basket case of a team with rules that penalise every little tickle. Once he's adjusted and got some continuous game time I think he'll be a cracking player.

I just hope he doesn't go the same way as Lauaki where his card is marked by referees looking to penalise him for anything before he's even stepped on the field. I personally don't believe there was anything wrong with his 'yellow card' tackle it was marginal at worst and I've seen people get away with worse but then again he's got a Hull shirt on.

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I really wasn't expecting us to win with such a big scoreline. I know you have a lot of players missing, but I guessed it would be a 6-10 winning margin for one of us. Good luck in the Cup next week guys..

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Well played Leigh, great support and so much. noise from a a travelling band of supporters who very much remind me of our hard core support, they never stopped singing from start to finish, and to dismantle us as they did on our home ground, was a sight to behold, magnificent first win for them, in adversity, with super stars missing they did us with ease, destroyed us with craft and structure, Brad Dwyer outstanding, he wasn’t good enough for us apparently,


On to my team, weak, unfit, no spirit, muddled, no structure, absolutely pathetic investment in class or solid players, apart from Herman, the rest are championship material at best, Okinbar is bang average, and although Nu Brown talks a good game, he doesn’t deliver, one token run a game, poor passer of the ball, and no discernible kicking ability, leads me to think he’s not the answer to our go forward as a replacement for the great Danny Houghton ( that’ll get the hackles up on the never actually go to a match forum)


Tex had a decent game, but like general Custer eventually it became too much, Sutcliffe is a terrible centre, and alongside Macintosh as a wing, wouldn’t get in any of the top six teams.

Half backs, we have Fev half backs,


Lane, Brown, Cator, Fash, not big enough, hearts of lions no doubt.

Ultimately we are, and have been a e team for years now, poor recruitment, lack of investment, especially in the first team, the youth investment is magnificent, but without a solid first team, it is meaningless as you end up with Stavely Martin, Litten,etc playing too many matches, and actually believing academy players like Jack Charles will step up, it’s unbelievable.

The recruitment of our club has been nothing short of amateurish, done on the cheap, super league is unforgiving if your crap you’ll get stuffed, and boy are we crap.

Now then AP it lies at your feet, as a supporter without any involvement in the club,, apart from sixty years of love I’ve invested, my suggestion would be to liaise with our Turkish bedfellow about communal investment.

Step aside.

Create a board of. Directors who are willing to invest in this once great club


Incidentally I was at Warrington and the friendles at Odsal and Donnie, stayed till the end of yet another heartbreaking performance today, and clapped these bunch of tryers of the pitch, but ffs if my spirit is broken,
and we have no rainbow anymore, then it’s done.

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