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Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Talk about a MASSSSSSSSIVE over reaction on here which doesnt come as a surprise in all honesty.

Personally I thought we were far better than the score line suggested.

The PTB was so slow thought a ton of our penalties came from the ref not understanding good tackling technique should be rewarded.

Its clear in the middle of the pitch our emphasis is having the 1st tackler stand up the ball carrier and 2 others come in to finish the tackle late off with a upper body twist. The problem is Houghton and Heremia simply lack the size to make tackles like that on props like Paea who was their only go forward.

McKinnon looked really classy, O'Carroll went well and probably made the most metres per carry out of all our props, Martin played himself into the starting line up no question.

Westerman looked good in the 1st 20 but seemed to tire big time, maybe down to the added workload required in the middle.

The Whiting knock on when it was 18-20 was 1 of the biggest momentum changers probably ever seen in a game and we never recovered.'"



Only real negatives for me the kicking game & defence. Had the kicking game been better we might have been able sway the tide in the first half a bit and had the defence around the ruck been better we might have been able to keep them in our half once or twice. We also never learned and allowed them to offload at will.

That said the defence in the first half was largely sound and we did loads of goal line defence, two of there tries were from spilled balls. Maybe that amount of defence showed in the second half and we started to get bullied in the pack a little.

All in all I was happy enough and expect us to improve with each game. Only worry really was Westy, the workrate in the middle took something out of him in attack.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "People are going way OTT about Lyne and Horne. It was Lynes first game at full back he was on the pitch for around 15mins didn't do much wrong, did well to take the ball when he got knocked out perhaps he should have jumped but he'll learn. People keep saying about trying the youngsters and when one gets knocked out playing in a new position we should ship him out
This is the problem, fans want the youngsters to be given a chance but when they do something wrong they shoot them down.

I thought Green did well yesterday after spilling the ball on his first hit up.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "People are going way OTT about Lyne and Horne. It was Lynes first game at full back he was on the pitch for around 15mins didn't do much wrong, did well to take the ball when he got knocked out perhaps he should have jumped but he'll learn. People keep saying about trying the youngsters and when one gets knocked out playing in a new position we should ship him out
Good post agree totally.

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Quote: PAUL M "This is the problem, fans want the youngsters to be given a chance but when they do something wrong they shoot them down.

I thought Green did well yesterday after spilling the ball on his first hit up.'"


I agree about Green, was unlucky on his first hit up, got hit right on the bottom of the ball and popped out.

Its the same as Sharp. I thought he was one of our better players yesterday but some jerks sat near me and on there and the radio was calling him saying he'll never be a SL winger. They must be watching a different game to me.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "I agree about Green, was unlucky on his first hit up, got hit right on the bottom of the ball and popped out.

Its the same as Sharp. I thought he was one of our better players yesterday but some jerks sat near me and on there and the radio was calling him saying he'll never be a SL winger. They must be watching a different game to me.'"

dont think these forums,or facebook etc help! a degree of brain washing happens! 1 or too plant an idea it builds momentum and then people cant see the good anymore! sharp went ok i thought concidering how much went that way for him to deal with!

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first game out, people are surprised we look a bit rusty?

it is 13 days until our first meaningful game, that is a heck of a lot in professional sport.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "I agree about Green, was unlucky on his first hit up, got hit right on the bottom of the ball and popped out.

Its the same as Sharp. I thought he was one of our better players yesterday but some jerks sat near me and on there and the radio was calling him saying he'll never be a SL winger. They must be watching a different game to me.'"



Sharp had a good game, he's just a scapegoat these days.

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It was Hornes 1st game with Seymour and under Gentle. Im not Hornes biggest fan but he is the best 6 we have. The last couple of seasons are irrelevant, hes a professional and will go out and do what Agar tells him to do. If Horne gets injured and we bring in Ellis or Nicklas i'd give it 2 games before people are moaning about them.'"
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defence was poor, especially some of the communication, but it will improve. what you have to remember is in friendlies the aim to to get match practice. if you look at the old hands, for example lynch, tickle and manu, they do the minimum required as they know their place is assured and they just want a warm up game or two without injury. i've watched tickle for example in a lot of pre season friendlies and he always starts the same way, come the start of the league the intensity lifts. look at rovers, they went at it full on yesterday and got 3 injuries - what use is that?

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Quote: the artist "defence was poor, especially some of the communication, but it will improve. what you have to remember is in friendlies the aim to to get match practice. if you look at the old hands, for example lynch, tickle and manu, they do the minimum required as they know their place is assured and they just want a warm up game or two without injury. i've watched tickle for example in a lot of pre season friendlies and he always starts the same way, come the start of the league the intensity lifts. look at rovers, they went at it full on yesterday and got 3 injuries - what use is that?'"


TBF medial knee after 2 minutes and a broken leg can hardly be attributed to 'going full out'.
I agree friendlies are a build up, FC have another game to build up, we were in our last before the season proper. If as you say the old hands do the minimum as they are assured a place then maybe they need to have a kick up the ar5e otherwise whats the point in them even bothering turning out.

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Quote: Tongan Mafia "Although I agree Horne really hasnt been the Horne of old and his pathetic attempt of tackling what led to one of there tries was really embarrasing, but you could see how much it hurt him to make such a poor attempt and to me we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Almost everyone on the pitch was shocking and needed the hit out. The pack was poor apart from O'carroll who looks a good signing and Mckinnon who looks assured and looks to have some quality pleased me the most.Martin seemed to make the right flank more dangerous and a bit more sound defensively. Seymour bell ringer on dobson near the line proves he aint scared of getting his hands dirty and his kick for the first try was classy and one of the few times he had a pack taking him forward. Im sure I will get slated but I dont want Lynne anywhere near the fullback spot to me he is the most over-rated player at our club and needs to be loaned out to a champ club or somewhere like wakey as he looks out of his depth to me.

Biggest plus was we havent got any injuries. Kr may have won the game but losing Galea is a massive blow to them.'"


Why on Earth would that be a good place to send him? I'd agree about some time in NL1, probably a dual contract, but no way would I like to see any of our players receiving any more coaching from Richard Agar. He'd probably only end up playing as a last 5 minute impact winger anyway.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Why on Earth would that be a good place to send him? I'd agree about some time in NL1, probably a dual contract, but no way would I like to see any of our players receiving any more coaching from Richard Agar. He'd probably only end up playing as a last 5 minute impact winger anyway.'"



I was thinking of a club what would take him as I very much doubt a half decent team would take him. Where somewhere like a wakey or maybe even castleford would have him. It could help him either learn and get better or basically show us he is out of his depth.

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Quote: Tongan Mafia "I was thinking of a club what would take him as I very much doubt a half decent team would take him. Where somewhere like a wakey or maybe even castleford would have him. It could help him either learn and get better or basically show us he is out of his depth.'"


It goes without saying that a decent SL team wouldn't currently want him as a frontline player, otherwise he'd be holding down a place for us. I just think that Wakefield should be pretty much bottom of the list of desirable places for us to send our youngsters to develop, given that the man in charge there was a large factor in why we haven't had any players emerge in the past 4 years. Even if he did miraculously get regular first team rugby from Richard 'who can we move about instead?' Agar, that still doesn't mean he'll learn anything if he's not getting the right help/instruction. I for one would honestly rather see him go to almost any other club.

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Quote: carl_spackler "It goes without saying that a decent SL team wouldn't currently want him as a frontline player, otherwise he'd be holding down a place for us. I just think that Wakefield should be pretty much bottom of the list of desirable places for us to send our youngsters to develop, given that the man in charge there was a large factor in why we haven't had any players emerge in the past 4 years. Even if he did miraculously get regular first team rugby from Richard 'who can we move about instead' Agar, that still doesn't mean he'll learn anything if he's not getting the right help/instruction. I for one would honestly rather see him go to almost any other club.'"


He needs games at the top level if possible so I would think wakey,castleford(maybe),London or Widnes may have him. I personally think he is over-rated and has to improve a hell of alot for me. And id rather have him do that at another club then play for our u-20's.

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some poster are not over reacting about R Horne on one game
We have made excuses for him over the passed seasons .On Sunday
he was poor ..poster have been having ago at him not based on just
Sunday game .When you change things you change things ..In friendlies
you try different things and that should have been at halfbacks Ellis was
given a run out With R Horne it should have been with Seymour ..
Because Horne/Seymour wasn't working

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