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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Wigan who were just docked two points for salary cap offences?

This paranoia amongst some Hull FC supporters is embarrassing.'"


I agree that the paranoia is cringeworthy at times.

But I reckon there is not a single Wigan fan that had the 2019 Salary cap points deduction on their mind when they were watching their captain lift the trophy at Old Trafford last October.

The Punishment is woefully light and in an era of apparent "Live" salary cap, why is this not detected until the following season.

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Quote: The Eclipse "I believe the trouble started with the ridiculous extensions of Minichiello & Manu contracts, they are both way past it, on decent money & taking up quota spots.'"


Although I agree with the overall idea of your post, my reckoning is that you don't know what coin they are on.

If in the twilight of your career you have the choice of a reduction on pay or nothing at all, what would you do?

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "
The Punishment is woefully light and in an era of apparent "Live" salary cap, why is this not detected until the following season.'"
Because the player/players involved received (reduced) payments to keep within the cap, and their "agents" were payed separately, but that money should have gone directly to the players, and would have then exceeded the cap.

It took so long because wigan denied doing anything wrong, so it had to go to an independent tribunal, at which point they admitted the offence.

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Quote: ccs "Because the player/players involved received (reduced) payments to keep within the cap, and their "agents" were payed separately, but that money should have gone directly to the players, and would have then exceeded the cap.

It took so long because wigan denied doing anything wrong, so it had to go to an independent tribunal, at which point they admitted the offence.'"

So deliberately erroneously subverting the cap and compuonding it by lying only gets a meagre fine and docked 2 points? Seems very lenient to me. That’s not paranoia.

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Although I agree with the overall idea of your post, my reckoning is that you don't know what coin they are on.

If in the twilight of your career you have the choice of a reduction on pay or nothing at all, what would you do?'"


Although I agree with the overall idea of your post, my reckoning is that you don't know that they were offered a reduction in pay or nothing at all.

It would be fair to assume as the previous poster alluded too that they will be on a decent wage, maybe not high, maybe not low but decent as they are overseas players and both former internationals.

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Quote: mean_machine "Adam tangata is at Widnes now, played for fax for a couple of years but think this is the 1st time in a full time environment. He could do a good job for somebody only young as well but he was a stand out in the championship like Hill, Walmsley, Bullock. Just needs a chance. Big man as well'"


Currently injured expected back in 4 months.

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Quote: Keiththered "in your previous post you never referred to next season. I said this season.

Im sure you are right about the possibilities for next season. However the present incumbents have not shown that they are able to attract top players. The previous team was built by Motu Tony. nothing remotely exciting has happened on the player front since he left.'"


You did, so I apologise.

I think everyone knows that we aren't going to sign 4/5 players for next season my first post was talking about next season.

Tony was so influential at getting the right players in, I'd still think he would point Hull in the direction of a NRL player or two

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Quote: mean_machine "Adam tangata is at Widnes now, played for fax for a couple of years but think this is the 1st time in a full time environment. He could do a good job for somebody only young as well but he was a stand out in the championship like Hill, Walmsley, Bullock. Just needs a chance. Big man as well'"


We signed an alleged good Championship prop in Bienek.
Last I saw, he was injured, then going out on loan for the season.

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Quote: HFC Boy "We signed an alleged good Championship prop in Bienek.
Last I saw, he was injured, then going out on loan for the season.'"

He's out on loan to get back to full fitness, it's not for the season, so get your facts right before winging yet again.

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Bienek WILL be awesome,hopefully sooner rather than later.

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caps mismanaged simple as, players like washbrook and Logan should of been released and players like mini and manu should not of been kept on.

While Kelly’s a great player on his day , he’s had pretty bad luck with injury’s and the big chunk of cap tied up in him isn’t being justified, and while houghtons been a great servant , if what I’ve heard is true he along with Kelly are the two highest earners we have possible marquee wages.

Question is do they still both justify it?

In my opinion no I think both their wages can be put to more effective use at the end of this season.

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In Danny Houghton case,I could be wrong but I always thought that once a home grown player played for the same club for 10 yrs, their salary became exempt from the cap ?

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Quote: lingys "In Danny Houghton case,I could be wrong but I always thought that once a home grown player played for the same club for 10 yrs, their salary became exempt from the cap ?'"

Yes, you are wrong.

Very roughly, for 2019, it's £5k for every 10 games a "club trained player" plays in the previous season, up to a maximum of £100k.

New one on me.

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Quote: lingys "In Danny Houghton case,I could be wrong but I always thought that once a home grown player played for the same club for 10 yrs, their salary became exempt from the cap ?'"


its not free I think its 50k off the wage
However and prepare to stand corrected, I think if you nominated him as marquee, because home grown only 75k counts on the cap. I am not sure if you then get the 50k on top of that also, think you can only use the 50k once in the squad.

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Quote: ccs "Yes, you are wrong.

Very roughly, for 2019, it's £5k for every 10 games a "club trained player" plays in the previous season, up to a maximum of £100k.

New one on me.'"


ah right interesting that.

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