Strong rumours we've picked up luaki.

Surely Fitzgibbon is worth another year as he's been your best player along with Manu.

Fitz is an awesome player but he is spent now tbh..

I hope you get the best out of Lauiaki as Agar has not managed to.

Manu will be with us for a long time hopefully!!!

I wonder if the Wigan message-boarders will just call him Hame?

Good points being made about the substandard coaching meaning that it's quite hard in most cases to truly judge the players. Therefore the best question to ask is in the hypothetical situation that we have someone of Maguire/ Tony Smith standard coming in next season, who would you give another go to?

On that basis, I'd cut loose:

Fitz (retiring)
Long
Radford
Horne
Obst (only because of the ridiculous Heremaia signing)
Washbrook (not his fault that he's been wasted but probably too late to recover the situation now)

I've often thought to myself with some proper coaching Lauaki could be devastating and equally, how much more devastating would Willie Manu be if Tony Smith had been coaching him for the last few years?

The decision to hand Horne a 2 year contract reminds of when Bill Clinton dished out a load of pardons to his mates during his final days in office.

Horne,(how he got a two year contract is beyond me,1 year as cover perhaps)Lauaki,dowes,sharp,radford,long,fitzy,washbrook,all players listed here can do 'a job' but if we are looking to compete with the top 4 then we need a good clearout.
agar isnt up to it so that doesnt help matters and then you have the board who have just creamed the profits for the last few years without proper investment in building the team/getting a go forward coach.....still at least we are making money was their motto,hope adam pearson works better with james rule and we start to see improvement next season with the players we have got

Anybody who thinks Horne will be here acting as cover is kidding themselves.

indeed, he'll be first choice, and week in, week out, he'll keep trying the drop off ball on the inside, and we'll all get frustrated that it doesn't work.

Sir Fitz is fantastic in defense and gives his all, but he slows our attack down so much whilst also stifling Westermans game. For me Fitz should retire!

Don't you think that rather depends on who's the coach? Doubt a new coach will keep selecting a player who's not producing the goods, given the options we have in the halves next season.

Only time will tell, I suspect some of the "business" done by the previous board may be undone by AP if he possibly can.

The thing is we heard from a number of people how we would see new and improved players when they moved to club's with a decent coach but we dont seem to have seen this with Graham Horne, Mike Burnett, Craig Hall or Tommy Lee.

Hardly looking at players who were likely to achieve more elsewhere though, it's players like Yeaman, Briscoe, Moa etc. that would benefit from improved coaching.