Couldn't put it better myself mate

same here mate, and i thought my dad was a tad hasty in not renewing his pass this season (and hes 73, been going since he was a lad) but now i wish id have maybe not renewed and picked my games, (although what games i would choose is a hard one ) we have everything in place off the field to be a top club, but we have the on field structure of a bottom club, clueless coach and clueless board!! the worst of it is, i dont feel gutted at having lost to our bitter rivals, i expected it, tbh im starting to feel FC is a chore, i know i have to go, as we all carry on doing, but i honestly am losing a bit of passion! ill probably change my mind next week, thats the rollercoaster ride of being an FC fan

haha! Good one! I knew I would be going calmed down since Sunday and I have said it many times but I always end up going!

It wont happen though BB. I knew exactly what i was likely to be served up this season and yet i still bought a pass. We continue to go because we always have that nagging feeling in the deep dark recesses of our brains. You know the voice that quietly tells you that things might change this season. Or the voice that says, Agar could be gone after a couple of months and a new coach in place who takes up to the next level.

Or that could be just me and my borderline schizophrenia

At the end of the day if supporting the club is in your blood, it's in your blood. During our very quiet car ride home on Sunday night I actually thought how nice it would be to be one of the 'casual' fans who can walk away from going to the games either on a full-time or part-time basis. As much as I was fuming on Sunday having been embarrassed again, I know that I'll be at every game I can get to this season, just like thousands of others. And like Jed, my disappointment didn't come from the fact that we lost to Rovers - it came from the fact that since we lost that play-off game last September we clearly haven't improved one iota. Yes you can argue that the additions of Phelp and Obst will make us better but that's not the point. We shouldn't be scratting around signing those type of players when we've had more than long enough to recruit properly. I know some people on here will say that they don't need 'supporters like me' because I'm being negative about things but how the hell are you supposed to feel about FC at the moment? It's my club who I've supported home and away for 20-odd years and it hurts to see us messing about like we are. In my opinion - and it is purely my own opinion - the people who are saying 'it's only one game, things will come together etc' are kidding themselves. The squad isn't good enough and the coaching isn't good enough. I'll be there on Friday night but it'll be more in hope than anticipation which is bad news really. Apologies to those who don't like 'negativity' but sadly that's the way I feel at the moment.

You have just as much right to be negative as others have to be positive. More and more people are coming around to see that things have not changed since Agar took over. Yes we moved up a few places and challenged for 4th spot, but for me the performances were no better than previous seasons.

I've been a supporter for over 25 years and on Friday I will be voting with my feet and not attending the game.

While the club are getting 10,000+ attendances, they will not see a problem.

For all the people who say it's only 1 game and we will gel in time, I'm sorry, I disagree.
What we saw on Sunday was the same uninspiring, unmotivated, unorganised display we've grown used to over the last three years. Poor use of the bench. Little thought for tactics. Players out of position. A paper thin squad of players.... I could go on.

I also fear it's going to get worse before it gets better.

However, as long as we're a Grade A club, are making money on attendances and are occasionally scraping into the play-offs, there will not be a change on the coaching staff.

I love my club but I refuse to endorse the current regime. People may argue that makes me less of a supporter but it's my choice.

It might be old Faithful but it's not blind faith.

well put mate!
For me its not just 1 game agar showed me last year through the poor play and lack of game plan in so many games, the facts are that when it mattered and the big games game along we simply was not good enough:
Leeds x 3
wigan x 2
wire x 2
rovers play off game!

yes we finished 6th and possibly should have finished 4th, however i would say this was also to do with other teams under performing for alot of the season, eg leeds huddersfield who play far better rugby and have far better squads than we did/do! I just think if you gave the same squad we have now to someone of kearney/noble's quality then i would be confident of a top 6 finish at least, at the moment i can see us struggling for the eight!

So you reckon that everyone who finished below us last season went hugely backwards while we stood still?

You don't move from 12th place to 6th place and sit in the top 5 for most of the season without improving. It's simply not possible to fluke that kind of form over an entire season. A large chunk of that improvement was down to having better players rather than inspired coaching, but there was improvement nonetheless.

On the evidence of the MM game we'll not make any kind of improvement this season, and that will likely mean us falling back as other sides improve.

WHY? BASED ON WHAT ?