That's just your opinion, you have no idea how they'll view it.

I agree it's pretty likely that's how they'd try and present it in public but if that's what they really believed then they don't have the business acumen I thought they did.

Of course it's my opinion, everything I say on here is.

You have no idea why people may not buy passes but you keep passing it off as people being disgruntled with the coach and the style of rugby. It could well be down to financial reasons as much as rugby ones.

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Or are you simply advocating telling the club something that they already know?


Based on what, exactly?


You don't see how the club having less money to invest in playing staff or, ironically, a new coach is a bad thing?

Really?

What do we finance the changes you crave with? Pobble beads?


I've never used the phrase 'true fans'. I reserve the right to ridicule the ridiculous though.

It[i could[/i be yes and without a survey of those that don't renew it's always open to speculation.

However if they wanted to blame a drop in sales on the economy then you'd expect to see a similar drop in pass sales at most other SL clubs, if you don't see that then the other major factor you have to look at is the standard of rugby being produced.

Every club is different, we are expensive compared to some so we might have a greater drop. Anyway we don't yet know if there is a drop or what it will be. Another factor could be the East stand being reserved, there is no certainty that any drop is all about the rugby and therefore the loss of income would hurt the club badly and not really make any kind of point regarding the style of rugby.

Any fan wanting the club to sell fewer passes and therefore bring in less money is stupid IMHO!

Back to square one really, I said both viewpoints have their merits and logic but those on your side want to shout down those on the other as 'stupid' etc. I could just as easily accuse you of being a 'sheep' etc.

Anyway as you say, we don't even know what the sales figures are yet!

Anyway,

There are some VERY exciting things to come out of the club in the next couple of months, and i for one am very happy about it.

We are one of, if not the, best run club off the field in the super league.
We offer our fans alot of media products like FC.TV and future Media development (FOR FREE!!!!).
We made major improvements last year but just fell slightly short in the last 2 games.
Our player and directors are very approachable and will speak to you about anything you wish to discuss.

I, for one, am very proud and happy with were the club are heading and what they are striving to achieve but this will take time after a nightmare few years of things being done badly. This negativity is astounding sometimes and as Paul has said, the probable reason for people not renewing is that they cannot actually afford it and not that they want to 'bankrupt the club to teach them a lesson'

You do this a lot. You accuse other people of being ridiculous etc but don't like it when they accuse you of something. I don't have a side only my opinions so accuse away.

Also where is the proof that the board will only take notice or indeed take any notice due to reduced pass sales? Or is this just to suit your 'side' and your 'argument'?

Let's wait and see but I am pretty certain that a drop in pass sales won't result in Agar losing his job.

Agar will only lose his job if the team don't get results on the pitch, results off the pitch i.e. season pass sales will be deemed part of the marketing department.

So last year 9500 people paid good money and committed to watching at least 13 home SL games.

If say 2000 of those people choose not to do that again next season you are saying that that their decision is in no way related to their experiences of the previous season and simply because the marketing campaigns must have been inferior to last year's?