Have you seen our record against them.

Yes but I think you've still got plenty to beat them. If you get off to a good start you could well take the game away from them before half time as there heads will drop as in the two games we've played against them

Ah but there lies the problem....we have done that twice this season and lost 1 at Hudds despite being 18pts up and Bulls which we just won after another woeful 2nd half........All depends what team Agar picks......he needs to go with Tansey and Nickles in the halves....let them have thier head and do what they want and with Fitz,Tickle and Ogre back our pack will be better...I know your not fussed on Tickle but we do miss him when he is missing.

you want to drop horne from the halves who has been one of our better players in the last couple of games?

Yes because i believe Tansey would give us more options other than a show and step inside.

Took part in the players golf day yesterday spoke to Fitz he's started running again and was quiote hopeful he would be ok for this weekend at quins, ogre will be fit

and despite the fact horne set up most tries v the dobbins?

Must say I think Horne's looked pretty good the last couple of games.

great stuff! I hope you let Ogre win the golf!

We actually had nothing to lose against Wigan - always going to be a write-off with the injuries - and I expected him to play at least a couple then (not just Nicklas for 5 minutes).

I think Quins is the must win game, and by not giving the kids a try out on Friday Agar is still in the same "don't know - dare I risk them?" situation he was last week. If he has any balls he'll try Horne at fullback, Tansey and Nicklas in the halves and Lyne on the wing. But I bet he won't. He seems scared stiff to launch youngsters.

What he should have been doing is introducing each off the bench when we were playing well, giving him serious options now, instead of this "have to take this untried plunge" situation he now finds himself in.

Look what happened when Houghton [ihad[/i to step up - do people think for a second that Houghton would have had this chance if Berro wasn't injured? Horne, Yeamo and Cooke were started when very young, why hasn't Agar got the courage of his predecessors? Eastmond? Tomkins?

If they really aren't good enough they shouldn't be in the first team squad.... but then Agars been shouting the odds about finally have strength in depth this season. Really? Then prove it pdq before we enter the playoffs with the kids STILL untried.

quins are just the style of team we struggle against. We'll try to smash them up down teh middle while their smaller, more mobile pack will just run rings around us and their halfs will kick us to death. Much easier when sides with dumb coaches try and take us on up the middle

I would put Reece in for G Hall wouldn't mess the team around to much ..With Fitz/Tickle/and Ogre back we look more stronger.. If a youngster is good enough then He is older enough We have players that can look after them