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| He's coming over for a stint in pre season. Not sure where this leaves Jason Davidson. Hopefully he'll be another to leave.
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| On paper looks a fantastic appointment, but I'd like to know more details from the club, think we all know it's not full time and in a consultancy capacity. Will he be here for pre season training as this is key fir me particularly this year, hopefully ve here at least in person in the middle of the year too.
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| Quote: Dave K. "On paper looks a fantastic appointment, but I'd like to know more details from the club, think we all know it's not full time and in a consultancy capacity. Will he be here for pre season training as this is key fir me particularly this year, hopefully ve here at least in person in the middle of the year too.
He's coming over for some time in pre season.
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| Quote: RockNRolla "
This is something the club should have mentioned in there press release IMO.
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| Interesting article from Connor, stating Andy Last is the coach is the coach that got the most out of him, think Last is a really smart and under rated appointment.
I'd have liked us to take a gamble on Connor and played him , but can understand the reason we haven't made a move.
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| This is another example of the club being disingenuous with the fans, not mentioning its very part time and mostly remote. Myler has already started taking pages out of Pearson's playbook.
Why can't they just be honest with us ? Its still a positive but they are just setting more massive expectations from what is a part time, remote appointment.
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| Quote: steve_norton "This is another example of the club being disingenuous with the fans, not mentioning its very part time and mostly remote. Myler has already started taking pages out of Pearson's playbook.
Why can't they just be honest with us ? Its still a positive but they are just setting more massive expectations from what is a part time, remote appointment.'"
Totally agree, just say what it is, it's almost like they are trying to hide it and the fans have only found out through another journalist.
This would still be very positive news (especially if he is running pre season, does the NRL pre season start later than ours?), but its like they have tried to turn something positive into a negative with their cloak and dagger behavior.
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| Last season Manly started pre season on the 4th November, which must be similar time to us, you have to wonder how much time he will be here, surely Manly aren't going to give him 8 weeks off.
Wouldn't we be better just getting in a new S&C guy fulltime to work with the club face to face all year?
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| Even if Clarke comes across for a couple of weeks assesses the players needs and fitness requirements then designs plans to get the best out of them it's still a positive, as long as they stick to the S&C plans and advice while he's not there.
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Quote: Yippee try yay "Even if Clarke comes across for a couple of weeks assesses the players needs and fitness requirements then designs plans to get the best out of them it's still a positive, as long as they stick to the S&C plans and advice while he's not there.'"
This my concern (and t maybe addressed by bringing in additional people or Ellis taking on a more hands on role).
But this is currently our head of performance
https://www.hullfc.com/team/first-team/ ... n-davidson
And our head of our S&C
https://www.hullfc.com/team/first-team/ ... om-bennett
Doesn't really fill me with confidence, either of those in the positions they are and they seem to be there as one was a mate of smith and the other because he has been at the club a long time.
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Quote: Yippee try yay "Even if Clarke comes across for a couple of weeks assesses the players needs and fitness requirements then designs plans to get the best out of them it's still a positive, as long as they stick to the S&C plans and advice while he's not there.'"
This my concern (and t maybe addressed by bringing in additional people or Ellis taking on a more hands on role).
But this is currently our head of performance
https://www.hullfc.com/team/first-team/ ... n-davidson
And our head of our S&C
https://www.hullfc.com/team/first-team/ ... om-bennett
Doesn't really fill me with confidence, either of those in the positions they are and they seem to be there as one was a mate of smith and the other because he has been at the club a long time.
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| Quote: Dave K. "On paper looks a fantastic appointment, but I'd like to know more details from the club, think we all know it's not full time and in a consultancy capacity. Will he be here for pre season training as this is key fir me particularly this year, hopefully ve here at least in person in the middle of the year too.'"
Quote: Dave K. "This is another example of the club being disingenuous with the fans, not mentioning its very part time and mostly remote. Myler has already started taking pages out of Pearson's playbook.
Why can't they just be honest with us ? Its still a positive but they are just setting more massive expectations from what is a part time, remote appointment.'"
Reading all the different articles etc on the news of Clarke being brought in to consult, in true Hull FC style its all very ambiguous and open to question/interpretation as usual. You'd have thought with the membership packs now released they'd start to be a bit more open & informative but no.
On the face of it having someone like Clarke being involved is a positive and it does seem as though it will be in both a hands on and remote role throughout the year. I would suspect he will be here in Hull possibly prior to and the start of preseason to get a look at everything and set out/fine tune the plan and instruct the staff. Then I'd imagine he'll go back to Manly and keep a check and advise remotely and tweak things as the year progresses, with the odd visit back over to Hull along the way. Then again it could all be totally different.
Its still positive having Clarke involved but somehow the club through poor communication etc have managed to mess up what should have been a real feel good and positive announcement.
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| Quote: Dave K. "This my concern (and t maybe addressed by bringing in additional people or Ellis taking on a more hands on role).
But this is currently our head of performance
As you say hopefully someone like Ellis will.be moved into that role, someone who commands respect. If the club have gone out and got someone with a reputation like Clarke on board you'd think the players and coaches would want to take on board what he's saying as he's one of the best at what he does.
Imagine working as a chef and your restaurant gets Gordon Ramsey in for a few weeks you'd take notice of what he does and says.
Having the likes of Asiata, Rapana and Hardaker around will hopefully help change the mentality of the club and grasp opportunities like this with both hands.
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| I wouldn’t be surprised to see him here full time eventually. Signed a 3 year deal might have given Manly a year to find a replacement.
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| The fact Manly have has to put out a statement to explain what is happening to their fans says it all.
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| Also a bit more info from Dan, gives a bit more insight, but not sure how it will work. Suprised Nanly have allowed this.
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