On the bright side, last night made our performance against Cas look half decent.

He who laughs last .......you know how the rest goes

I'll start worrying when we have a club record defeat to contend with.
Thing is, most hull fans know how poor we've been so your gloating is misplaced.
Long term, id rather support a club that is investing heavily on youth structures and facilities, and adding to the squad rather than annually lose their best players.

10,400 on the Sky caption. Not surprising at all - poor form, tv game and another game in six days time would all contribute.

I don't think Johnson was better than Lynch and IMO Lynch seems to copping at least some flak for other players failings. Sure he dropped the ball when he shouldn't have done (although I really wish he'd have been at the tap restart near the end and not McDonnell as I'd have fancied him to have taken that pass) and it was poor handling although some credit to the tackler is due. He should have retained possession but I found it refreshing to see a rare line break from a Hull prop in the first place. You're right in your assessment that he is carrying some workload from others and as a result I'd be more than surprised if his stats were not way ahead of any other Hull prop last night. Johnson is one brave player whose effort cannot be questioned but frankly isn't top level - not big enough to break through the line and is regularly mullered in contact if his initial footwork isn't effective. If only we could put Johnson's heart into Watts' body as Watts for me is incapable of concentrating for more than a set and his pathetic positioning and defence in the middle for their break late on was nowhere near SL standard. Watts' failings are far more to do with a lack of intensity and desire than the bit of weight he's lost and that can be said for a couple of others in the past three or four weeks.

Really, one defeat would worry you more than a run of average half d performances, strange. I'd take one club record defeat followed by learning from it, improving and kicking on seems that concept is alien to your coach. still theres always next year.

If by losing our best players annually you mean someone who thought he was worth more than he is like Mcdonnell, someone who'd rather be in the pub like Watts and a player who should have retired like Galea then keep investing. Bottom line is how long before the likes of Crooks and Lineham realise they are too good to be wallowing in a mid table club and sign for a big club.

No - I think he means Paea, Dobson and Paterson doesn't he ?

Don't know we haven't lost them annually. So I went for the ones we lost last year. All replaced and can't say any of them where missed. Add to that Green and Taylor and I'd say recruitment was more than adequate to see them replaced.

I have full confidence we'll do the same with the 3 you mentioned. Dobson may be the difficult one but the other two will be relatively easy.

You seem to forget briscoe,turner,manu all left/or are leaving your shower,I suppose you have the consolation of huge transfer fees paid for them.

Well I would say that's who he meant regardless of your silly little play on it. Glad you're confident that you can source replacements it's a great position to be in. Top 4 place beckoning for you next season and at least one major final I should imagine. Nothing to do with Hull FC though so I'll leave it there.

This I think is symptomatic of the club atm.
Why are Wakefield a lesser team? They're certainly playing better and with more enthusiasm than us currently.
There was a woman behind me last night spitting feathers about how we'd lost to Cas and now Wakefield like we've got some right to beat these teams all the time.

We haven't got the right to be beating them but if we want to be heading in the direction our owner stated when taking over then we are going to have to start performing better against the likes of Wakey, Cas, Widnes, London, teams who won't be making the play-offs.

I quite agree.
My point is there seems to be an expectation that we can just turn up and win rather than having to actually play well to do it.
I do think the gap has narrowed a lot and there isn't all that much to choose between the teams from about 5th-6th downwards (I count us in that group) and if you don't turn up and give it your all you're going to get turned over.

Who says we won't make the play offs - it's that kind of arrogance and dismisiveness that causes Hulls problems in the first place.

If I were a betting man I'd back us ahead of you at the moment