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| Quote: Mrs Barista ""Hull FC’s Chairman will be joined by the club’s Director of Rugby to review a disappointing year on the field, whilst casting an eye forwards to 2025."
Mate, we won 3 SL games all season. It's been nothing less than a catastrophe, the lowest point (so far) in a decline years in the making. Fair play for having the event but if it's an exercise in downplaying/excusing/glossing over the real state of things it could be counterproductive.'"
On a separate note Mrs B...
Be interesting to see the next set of accounts, to see how much our owner has 'withdrawn'
ECCTA 2023 means no more hiding profit and loss on the balance sheet. Filleted accounts are no more.
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| I might go to the fans forum and tell Pearson thanks for 2016 and 2017 now please off
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| Crowds down 9% this year and that's tickets sold not people actually turning up and we had two home derbys. No wonder Pearson is coming for a chat with the fans...
[urlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc-continue-impressive-mkm-9586846?utm_source
Also interesting when they lay all the averages out is it isn't the seasons where we played well such as 2006 and 2016 that have the biggest numbers there's a delayed impact due to pass sales and years like 2007, 2008 and 2017 were better.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "I might go to the fans forum and tell Pearson thanks for 2016 and 2017 now please love off'"
It’s been done to death and I’m as fed up as the next man with the club being ran the way it is but what would that achieve? I know that’s tongue in cheek about the fans forum but abusing the owner/staff/players is all a bit childish and achieves nothing, just makes matters worse. AP just ups and leaves have you thought through what would happen?
The fact is nobody wants to buy the club, if they did AP would be long gone. At least him fronting up for this fans forum puts the silly takeover rumours to bed. I think this is the last thing he would want to do, but he knows he has to do it and try and put a spin on the situation and keep the few remaining supporters onside before the club goes totally belly up. The silly rumours have bought him 6 months, hopefully time for some transparency now and some positivity, any outside investment coming in is a positive.
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| Lasty has already started this week and not impressed by the attitudes and behaviours at the training ground. Spoke to Grix about it who had a 'what can I do' kind of attitude about it
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "Lasty has already started this week and not impressed by the attitudes and behaviours at the training ground. Spoke to Grix about it who had a 'what can I do' kind of attitude about it'"
It's clear from gix's whole demeanour he's no leader. He needs to be gone. Only an incompetent would have allowed the malaise under smith to continue
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "Lasty has already started this week and not impressed by the attitudes and behaviours at the training ground. Spoke to Grix about it who had a 'what can I do' kind of attitude about it'"
I'm not a fan of Grix but in fairness the players know a new coach is arriving in a few weeks, there isn't a lot of 'rules' he could implement now.
Also the squad itself will be in an odd place, several have left and the new comers haven't arrived yet.
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| They were all probably still half cut after their mad Monday in the algarve
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "It’s been done to death and I’m as fed up as the next man with the club being ran the way it is but what would that achieve? I know that’s tongue in cheek about the fans forum but abusing the owner/staff/players is all a bit childish and achieves nothing, just makes matters worse. AP just ups and leaves have you thought through what would happen?
The fact is nobody wants to buy the club, if they did AP would be long gone. At least him fronting up for this fans forum puts the silly takeover rumours to bed. I think this is the last thing he would want to do, but he knows he has to do it and try and put a spin on the situation and keep the few remaining supporters onside before the club goes totally belly up. The silly rumours have bought him 6 months, hopefully time for some transparency now and some positivity, any outside investment coming in is a positive.'"
Still hearing from a couple at the Club that where someone to come in and own the biggest share in the Club or take it over Adam would stay on as Chief Executive. A role he is ensconced in at present. Have to say that if it's just a straight forward investment in the Club, which you obviously know it is, its hard to see why it is takings so long at the solicitors.
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Still hearing from a couple at the Club that where someone to come in and own the biggest share in the Club or take it over Adam would stay on as Chief Executive. A role he is ensconced in at present. Have to say that if it's just a straight forward investment in the Club, which you obviously know it is, its hard to see why it is takings so long at the solicitors.'"
Agree about it being odd it's taking so long, it's quite a simple business one owner/shareholder no physical assets etc. I don't know long it took Adam to buy from Kath because it was kept under wraps but it seemed to happen quickly.
No news on pass sales which might be a good thing, i.e. waiting for something better to tell us.
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| Where you heard about the Lasty thing?
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| Quote: Blackandwhitebigdog "Genuinely thought the investment/takeover would be announced along with the season tickets.
What is going on with it?!'"
People are adamant certain things are happening by putting two and two together. People have said that Myler was such a left field appointment there’s no way his father in law isn’t ‘the investor’ and there’s no way he wouldn’t just buy the club outright. People are also adamant that we wouldn’t have sacked Smith/Gene and paid off the players we have if there wasn’t major money coming in from somewhere. I’m not sure I agree with this logic, we’ve made left field appointments and paid off poorly performing coaches and players off despite being skint before, reckless decisions like this are a major factor in why we are in such a financial mess in the first place.
Personally what I’ve been told doesn’t line up with any of that, but I don’t claim to be ‘in the know’ the only thing we have concrete is AP being very vague saying he’s in negotiations with different parties about a potential cash injection that he hopes will be completed by the end of the year. Interpret that how you wish. Call me a cynic but especially when trying to decipher AP waffle I don’t see that meaning he’s selling up to a mega rich new owner.
Again I hope I’m proven wrong and we have a big announcement and start spending the max cap like the big boys, just don’t see it.
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| Still can't believe that Myler, Last and Cartwright looks at our options and think they are good enough. Even if we added some depth, someone like Connor Wrench or Jayden Myers (or look to Union) I'd feel a bit better about that position. Looks the only position we are weaker in for 2025 compared to 2024.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Still can't believe that Myler, Last and Cartwright looks at our Centre options and think they are good enough. Even if we added some depth, someone like Connor Wrench or Jayden Myers (or look to Union) I'd feel a bit better about that position. Looks the only position we are weaker in for 2025 compared to 2024.'"
I’m not fully convinced Rapana isn’t earmarked for centre. I did think at the time of the Chamberlain signing clubs don’t usually sign 29 year olds on 3 year deals to be a ‘backup’ like the consensus was on here at the time. Someone like Hampshire at Wigan is there just as a utility but they spend a lot more on the cap then we do and imagine he’ll only be on a one year deal. I think Chamberlain will at least start the season as first choice centre and maybe move Rapana around and use Moy as fulllback later on.
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| Rumour I heard yesterday, cut a long story short is that myler and his in-law got Pearson to spend money he hasn’t got for next season on the promise money / takeover will happen but have now backtracked on that , in the hope they’ll get the club cheap / free . How true I don’t know , but surely Pearson wouldn’t go along with that without nothing in writing . If true maybe why we are offering 3 year passes as he needs money asap . Does seem strange why nothing has happened so far .
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| Quote: Windy winger "Rumour I heard yesterday, cut a long story short is that myler and his in-law got Pearson to spend money he hasn’t got for next season on the promise money / takeover will happen but have now backtracked on that , in the hope they’ll get the club cheap / free . How true I don’t know , but surely Pearson wouldn’t go along with that without nothing in writing . If true maybe why we are offering 3 year passes as he needs money asap . Does seem strange why nothing has happened so far .'"
If that was true then Pearson would have got rid of Myler in a flash
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| Caught up with the Hull FC house of league pod.
Shaw and Tomlinson expect the 2 signings mentioned in the pass letter to be Cust & a middle.
The investment is dragging on but it is on the way. Hopefully everything will be sorted by the time they host the fans forum.
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| Quote: Windy winger "Rumour I heard yesterday, cut a long story short is that myler and his in-law got Pearson to spend money he hasn’t got for next season on the promise money / takeover will happen but have now backtracked on that , in the hope they’ll get the club cheap / free . How true I don’t know , but surely Pearson wouldn’t go along with that without nothing in writing . If true maybe why we are offering 3 year passes as he needs money asap . Does seem strange why nothing has happened so far .'"
This could only happen to FC. Then again your record with rumours is abysmal, do you get them direct from The Cooke Report.
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| Quote: Windy winger "Rumour I heard yesterday, cut a long story short is that myler and his in-law got Pearson to spend money he hasn’t got for next season on the promise money / takeover will happen but have now backtracked on that , in the hope they’ll get the club cheap / free . How true I don’t know , but surely Pearson wouldn’t go along with that without nothing in writing . If true maybe why we are offering 3 year passes as he needs money asap . Does seem strange why nothing has happened so far .'"
Everyone is essentially spending money they don’t have because as far as I’m aware every super league club is spending more then what’s coming in, seem to remember that from the 22/23 figures anyways.
We obviously paid off Smith/Gene/Hoy for this year but we’d have still had to pay them anyway had we kept them, apart from a few loan signings and Cartwright Jrn we didn’t exactly spend any extra this season, it’s fair to say we put the cue on the rack and Derek Beaumont will happily testify to that.
For next seasons outgoings fair enough we’ve added a couple of back room staff and a physio but again hardly been splashing the cash. Player for player is still think we’ll be spending less or at best similar to previous seasons. Had the supposed ‘huge’ Lam and Whitehead deals came off then maybe a scenario like that would be believable, I don’t buy it though.
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| I think if nothing was happening investment wise Pearson would've limped on with Smith until the end of the season. Like he did with Hodgson
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| Quote: mwindass "Caught up with the Hull FC house of league pod.
Shaw and Tomlinson expect the 2 signings mentioned in the pass letter to be Cust & a middle.
The investment is dragging on but it is on the way. Hopefully everything will be sorted by the time they host the fans forum.
No other gossip really'"
If anyone has an hour, worth a listen, very honest chat, hard to argue with any of it.
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| Quote: mwindass "I think if nothing was happening investment wise Pearson would've limped on with Smith until the end of the season. Like he did with Hodgson'"
Smith and Gene only ever signed 2 year deals though didn’t they in 22? Grix was already here and on the payroll so in effect it cost nothing to get rid really in hindsight.
FWIW I think the ‘investment’ will be an anti climax to what people think it will be but I’m sure it will happen, just think with the results/performances what they were leading up to April think he’d have given Smith the boot regardless of any investment situation. He simply had to do something.
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "Smith and Gene only ever signed 2 year deals though didn’t they in 22? Grix was already here and on the payroll so in effect it cost nothing to get rid really in hindsight.
FWIW I think the ‘investment’ will be an anti climax to what people think it will be but I’m sure it will happen, just think with the results/performances what they were leading up to April think he’d have given Smith the boot regardless of any investment situation. He simply had to do something.'"
I can see Thirkill eventually being the majority shareholder but to start I think it'll be a smallish buy in.
I don't think Pearson will be going anywhere soon, he'll stay on in some capacity. Agree that people wanting a full takeover and Pearson going will be left disappointed.
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| Quote: mwindass "Quote: mwindass "Smith and Gene only ever signed 2 year deals though didn’t they in 22? Grix was already here and on the payroll so in effect it cost nothing to get rid really in hindsight.
FWIW I think the ‘investment’ will be an anti climax to what people think it will be but I’m sure it will happen, just think with the results/performances what they were leading up to April think he’d have given Smith the boot regardless of any investment situation. He simply had to do something.'"
I can see Thirkill eventually being the majority shareholder but to start I think it'll be a smallish buy in.
I don't think Pearson will be going anywhere soon, he'll stay on in some capacity. Agree that people wanting a full takeover and Pearson going will be left disappointed.'"
I wouldn't be surprised if there has been an initial investment in to the club by one or more parties but with a view to a much more significant investment/buy in subject to certain caveats, due to the apparent state & the way the club operated on & off the field this season.
It's still all very much up the air and open to rumour/speculation/conjecture until AP, RM et al come out and confirm what has/hasn't happened in terms of the club off the field.
There has actually been very little said/announced since news of Mylers arrival and his first few interviews, since that point we've heard very little officially which has surprised me as I'd have thought/expected some kind of news to come out just prior or in tandem with the release of the news re renewals/memberships etc.
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