Despite us been lucky, I'd say that we were still the best side and the stats I'm sure back it up, their kicking game overall was outstanding. Not something to brag about though beating a team of that quality (as I said pre game, there have all the odds against them)

Would love to know the percentage of ex players who score against us.

Would have no complaints if we had lost today. A win is a win....but....

London came with belief they could beat us, we have to be thankful they missed 3 conversions I guess.

It shouldn't take 75 minutes for a team to show more enthusiasm in the last few minutes of a game than they did all match.

Another solid performance from Staveley probably the bright spot.

On that showing no.
Even Castleford are a lot better organised team than we are
I agree with Smiggs apart from making us into the most undiciplined team in S/L for the second successive season,Smith has done nothing with this squad either in structure,attack or defence.
He is known by HKR fans as tinkering Tony.Last week with Smith and Hoy in the halfs and Brown at nine we looked better despite the loss, yet just to bring Houghton back he moves players around and drops Balmforth who seriously has to wonder what he has to do to get into the 17.
We know Houghtion is solid but offers no threat from acting half,so we have to play Brown at nine.
For me the clocks ticking for Smith

We showed something different in attack today but kick defence was woeful. Matty Russel had the most energy running the ball in and was a refreshing change to the standard plodding forward. Last season we would have lost that game so credit to the players for playing till the end. I will take any win at the moment and even a poor win has to be a confidence boost for the players.
I was mystified by some of the calls from the ref today for and against us, will watch it back later.
Also credit to the handful of London fans they made plenty of noise in the North stand whereas our fans were flat for most of the match.

If Tony smith didn't have his reputation and this was an inexperienced Aussie coaching us for the same amount of time Smith has, his position would be looking increasingly untenable. We're regressing compared to how we were under Hodgson, discipline is terrible and too many dumb plays like watching the ball bounce out from kickoff

Think we need to take the positives from what was a very trying nervy afternoon

1: We scored
2: We won (by playing a get out of jail card!!)
3: Think that's it!

We all knew, in our hearts, it was going to be a year when our faith is tested but, based on what we have seen so far, it doesn't look like there are going to be too many highlights for us to cheer!!

I haven't felt this downbeat about where the club is going since 1999, these are dark days indeed and we desperately need a boost from somewhere, but heaven knows where it will come from

Smith hasnt had the budget the others have had, not really sure what people are expecting. Hes being told to bring and develop our own players, something he is doing and you cant throw them all in at once. Hes also inherited a squad that has players with contracts they shouldnt have.

I think some of you have short memories, im under no illusions we will finish low but young players are starting to break into the mold.

Yes today was terrible but they won and this team will get better when players return. Getting rid of Smith will solve nothing. Bout time the supporters realised whats trying to be achieved here and your going to have to show patience. Forget about the previous coaches, Smith has a totally different task.

Take pride that players like Staveley, Charles and Martin are not looking out of place. Last week Gardiner, Litten and Balmforth, these are the future.

Not sure I agree that Houghton justified his spot as think Nu Brown the far better option at 9. Think we are back to changing the team just to accommodate Houghton at 9. Not saying Houghton is poor just think that we’d be better with Brown at 9 with Balmforth on the bench and Hoy in the halves. Poor recruitment by Smith and the club to give Houghton another deal when we’d signed Smith and Nu Brown whilst having Balmforth also.

As some else has said as much as TS is experienced the clock must be ticking soon as we simply are not progressing or look like we are progressing under his tenure.

We're still a full time team and should be doing the basics better, London are part time, had 8 players out and almost beat us

Morgan Smith has been out best half this season. On reflection it seems an odd signing if we're carry on trying to play Nu in the halves.

Ok well let's look at the positives amongst the poor performance. Walker is class at FB. Martin if he keeps progressing will be a good winger. Smith looks to be a good bargain buy. Staverly again if progresses will be a very good Second row for us. Russell and Bullock did well. Ashworth good buy. Oh yea and I had a nice chicken tea

Putting Tony Smith under more scuritiny from now.

I take into account we've hardly had a good roll of the dice this season and the squad has problems many years in the making, but I expected to see at least one aspect of our game to improve but we are instead weaker than we were under Hodgson. Time for this supposed coaching legend to show what he's made of not just some media freindly soundbites.

Yep, pressure is on Tony now from me.

I refuse to believe he can sit there and think that Smith and Nu Brown is a better partnership than Smith and Hoy.

What a shambles we have become, seconds away from defeat against a part time side at home. Even the way the players celebrated annoyed me, no relief, just appeared like they’d won the grand final.

I accept that this is a side that simply isn’t good enough, and that it will probably end up finishing 10th again.

Positives, Staveley and that Lewis Martin is rather quick.

We must be the dumbest, most frustrating team in world sport. The only positives to take put of that were Staveley, Martin, Ashworth and the 2 Loan players.

I don't get what they do in training all week, our line speed is appalling, we're weak in the tackle and our core skills are awful. Is it fitness related? Do we have a plan?

We can't persist with Brown at 7 it's not his fault but he's no a half back. We've looked best (or least worse) this season with Smith (a proper 7) and Hoy (the closest thing we have to a 6, Trueman aside) in the halves. We have New Zealands number 9 in our team but play him at 7 I just can't understand why. If we lose Balmforth due to a lack of gametime I'll be absolutely livid, the kids done his time on loan in the championship put the graft in and looks the part every chance he takes the field but he can't get in for more than a game at a time even after a good performance.

Not sure if London are part time so cant comment.

But again they is a bigger picture beyond today. The one thing I take from the club time and time again is that we have to produce our own and that to me looks like its happening. We was never going to finish high this season, the rebuild is alot bigger then some think by the looks of it.

Ive said many times Smith may not see the job through but bagging him and getting rid will solve nothing. To get us back up there the gap from youth to first team needs to be plugged. I can see that happening. It will be a slow process but they will get better.

You have to look at some facts, Smith had to sell our best player to sign a scrum half when he came in. That scrum half also then left the club to return home,leaving us in a weaker position. Hes had a remit of producing youth which will take time, whilst also having to oversee a change in backroom staff and training facilities.

Its easy to look at the first team and write it off. The job is much bigger then that.