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| Quote: Bet Lynch "This discussion had nothing whatsover to do with my own interpretations on what is written in the media, the fact is statements were coming out of the club claiming top 4 finish only weeks ago and my point is this would raise the expectations of a lot of fans who read the articles. I am still adamant that McRae contradicts himself just because you disagreed and had a different interpretation to me which I respect did not make me change my mind
Well damn right the club were talking about top 4 before, what would you have them say 'this is as good as it's gonna get this year'?
This is exactly about the way you process articles and statements. Consistently you pick up on what the club say they are aiming for and then hold it up as a minimum requirement so that you can then vilify them for not delivering what they say.
And it doesn't matter how you say you interpret McRae's comments, they aren't contradictory. Contradiction means 2 statements that directly oppose each other in meaning, McRae's did no such thing.
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| I don't think you'll get a better chance of beating Leeds, Sinfield apart they were awful. Error after error they were giving Hull every chance to get into the game 2nd half. You certainly had enough go forward to hurt them, unfortunately your just lacking that player who can unlock a defence,
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| Quote: bishops finger "I don't think you'll get a better chance of beating Leeds'"
Apart from the game at the KC a few weeks ago when we actual [idid[/i beat them, you mean?
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| You say the ref was terrible but as with every club including leeds you only seem to have a bad ref when your team loses!!
They dont seem quite as bad if you watch them on TV? coincidence?
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| Quote: jarvis12345 "You say the ref was terrible but as with every club including leeds you only seem to have a bad ref when your team loses!!
They dont seem quite as bad if you watch them on TV? coincidence?'"
I watched on TV last night and he was terrible, but then most are. More and more, refs seems to favour one team for big chunks of the game meaning teams get on top
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Well damn right the club were talking about top 4 before, what would you have them say 'this is as good as it's gonna get this year'?
This is exactly about the way you process articles and statements. Consistently you pick up on what the club say they are aiming for and then hold it up as a minimum requirement so that you can then vilify them for not delivering what they say.
And it doesn't matter how you say you interpret McRae's comments, they aren't contradictory. Contradiction means 2 statements that directly oppose each other in meaning, McRae's did no such thing.'"
I am not vilifying them at all I am responding to the fact making claims several weeks ago claiming top 4 finish will raise fans expectations, simple really.
McRae did an article in the media re Manu and stated the club wanted a decision, a matter of weeks later re Turner & Whiting (I believe) he claimed the club understood that the players needed time to make a decision, that is a contradiction.
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| Can anybody remember a game which hull fc lost and it wasn't the referees fault ? I can recall a play off match when hull played bradford and the referee sent steven kearney off after about 6mins for 3 head high tackles and was blamed for the loss.The score was 71-0. By the way I do agree the referee heavily favoured leeds last night with some poor decisions.!
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| Quote: alexwest "Can anybody remember a game which hull fc lost and it wasn't the referees fault ? I can recall a play off match when hull played bradford and the referee sent steven kearney off after about 6mins for 3 head high tackles and was blamed for the loss.The score was 71-0. By the way I do agree the referee heavily favoured leeds last night with some poor decisions.!'"
Thanks for reminding me about the score,I had forgot all about it.
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "I am not vilifying them at all I am responding to the fact making claims several weeks ago claiming top 4 finish will raise fans expectations, simple really.'"
I suppose it depends on the fan. Personally I'd expect my fellow fans to be able to make their own judgments rather than just go with whatever they hear others saying. Then again I suppose there are people who are convinced pyramid schemes will make them rich, too.
Quote: Bet Lynch "McRae did an article in the media re Manu and stated the club wanted a decision, a matter of weeks later re Turner & Whiting (I believe) he claimed the club understood that the players needed time to make a decision, that is a contradiction.'"
We went through this at the time, no it's not. It was different players who will have been made different levels of offer and therefore had different levels of influence on the salary cap. And even then, it's still not a contradiction at all to understand why players want to take their time but then say that that time is not available. The club could afford to wait a bit longer for Whiting and Turner to decide, they couldn't afford to hang around not knowing whether or not they had a chunk of cap the size of Manu to play with. It would perhaps be a contradiction if the situations were the same, but they really weren't.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I watched on TV last night and he was terrible, but then most are. More and more, refs seems to favour one team for big chunks of the game meaning teams get on top'"
It's a trend started by James Child ,picked up by Roby, Alibert and ignored by Ganson *Spit*
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| Quote: GEvans75 "Extremely poor game of RL.
Nearly 40 errors in the game which either resulted in a handover or pen.
We was guilty of 25 of them.
Turner and Horne guilty of 5 and 3 errors alternatively.
No attacking threat no kicking game no ideas.
What depressed me was we had Aspinwall, Watts, Westerman, McGoldrick in the same team.
I put up with the years of poop under Agar because he was out of his depths, Gentle isn't he assisted one of the best coaches in the game in Tim Sheen's and was the Aussie assistant coach but we look a slow poor side.
Yes we have injuries but we always do, same poop different year
And to finish if Briscoe thinks he can play in the NRL he's having a laugh.
Anyway I'm off to slit my wrists.
But hey there is always next season.'"
He was the best winger since Offiah after he scored that try against Leeds at the KC. Whats changed? Or was it that try wasnt as good as you thought and you were massivley overreacting to a win against Leeds for the first team in ages!!
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| Quote: Standee "10 first teamers out, poor conditions and atrocious officials, last night was nowhere near as bad.'"
You're forgetting that you were playing a team that has been hammered by the top clubs recently and is struggling to scrape into the play-offs. To lose to Leeds at the moment should be humiliating for you whether you have 10 first teamers out or not. Stop trying to desperately find positives from your truly shocking display, be realistic. FACT: you were well beaten by a very poor Leeds team.
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| Quote: chunkyhugo "You're forgetting that you were playing a team that has been hammered by the top clubs recently and is struggling to scrape into the play-offs. To lose to Leeds at the moment should be humiliating for you whether you have 10 first teamers out or not. Stop trying to desperately find positives from your truly shocking display, be realistic. FACT
Couldn't agree more. Fact that a depleted Hull side really was in with a chance says everything you need to know about leeds. No repeat of teh 2011 GF charge for them this year
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| Quote: chunkyhugo "Stop trying to desperately find positives'"
Why? Why aren't people allowed to find positives? Why do we have to be OTT negative?
This just seems an ignorant thing to say.
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| Quote: hullandbroncos "For the 1st time in 15 season i wont be a pass holder next season, not a knee- jerk reaction but just fed up of watching same old rubbish and i do think AP and PG are great for the club but the job they got in turning the club around is massive and dont see us improving much next season unless the signings are top class .'"
In Any Kind of Weather mate
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