God knows but happy it's only 2 games, he was starting to look good I thought.

Thought it was downgraded on the evidence to a B?.

no, it went from a D to a C



and Long hasn't looked good yet.

I our last two home games he has looked sharp and a bit like his old self. He should be paid with Obst imo and Horne dropped, Long isn't the problem in our halves currently.

That's a fair summary from what i hear. I'd be tempted though to play Turner with Long and use Obst at 9.

Agree with that also.



Horney has to step up to the plate tonight.

I would add that he was our only player of any note at MM creating 3 out of our 4 tries. He hasn't taken the team by storm but I wonder sometimes if people actually watch the game in front of them. His main problem has been lack of availability.

But Obst can play well in the halves, Turner can't.

That's where i disagree, (not about Obst) Turner played very well at 6 at the start of the season for me. If Long is pulling the strings i'd prefer a running 6 like Turner next to him.

No way does Turner bring more to the stand off position than Horne no matter who plays 7.

As a running 6 he was punching holes earlier in the season. Horne hasn't done that on his return from injury as i understand it.

Punching holes is not what is required of a stand off though is it? That's what a forward does and FWIW Horne has still been breaking the line but when it comes to passing, vision, tactical kicking, footwork and general variation of play, Horne is way ahead. I like Turner but he is too one dimensional and probably will end up as a strong running second rower.

It is from a running 6. I agree BTW that Horne has the far more rounded game but currently as a running 6 i'd like to see Turner in over Horne.