I actually think the same way too. People love to bloody moan!

Its all about opinions bud,not thinking we are great for thinking he is a good signing.Lets give the guy a chance before putting the boot in eh?

Thats far too much to ask to be fair

Forever: Without ever ending; eternally

Faithful: Full of faith; believing.

I'm quite surprised that he's come out with such bile. And from someone who thinks Agar is a super coach.

Just rumours mate until a deal is done, see Fielden for that.

My only concern would be that spending this kind of money on a transfer might stop us being able to pay a large transfer fee for a player we really need. Before anyone comes back with the usual "who would you sign then" rubbish or "nobody is available" I'll just say that anyone is available for the right price and its not my job to identify them. The fact we have paid a fee for a player in a position that wasn't a massive priority just seems like it could be a wasted opportunity to me. I think some people are grasping at straws suggesting he will bring a more creative aspect to the team at 13 as he has never struck me a particularly creative player, perhaps I'm wrong about that though?

I'm not saying he is a bad player at all and if he had come free or the transfer fee paid would have zero impact on cash available for a more vital signing I'd be more than happy to have him in the team. I just hope we are not all sat here halfway through the season complaining about our style of play and lack of creativity yet again.

Fair comments, but I think this signing is more about 2012 and beyond and avoiding the transfer market fight for him next year (since Agar's been targetting him for a while). The point on creativity I think is more about him offering more than an extra prop at 13, Fitz/O'Meley at prop and Westerman at 13 potentially offering more than Dowes(or Radford)/O'Meley at prop and Fitz at 13. More in hope than expectation though.

I guess it depends how much we've got available to spend. If we've paid £150k for Westerman as rumoured what's to say we haven't got another £150k in the bank should we need to spend it? I'd bet my house that we do. (if the right player comes up)

I'm surprised though that we could tempt a scrum half away from someone for £300k. (although maybe fitting them under the salary cap is a bigger issue than transfer fees)

Why did agar say it was fantasy the bast@d

What is we could not get anyone else, do we just not spend the money and not get stronger in the meantime? It's very rare you have to pay a fee and who is to say we would not do it again next off season? It's not rubbish to say who else is available, it's a relevant question, you can't just say we should have spent it on someone better and not give an example.

For two years we have played with a prop at 13, Westerman is a 13 and a mixture of an old and new style, it has to be an improvement on our previous style of play.