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Quote: Armavinit "Idiot? No I don't think so
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

I look forward to Warrington and the remaining matches of 2016. Enjoy.

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Quote: Fc_exile "Why do we except mediocrity more than most other clubs.'"

What an oddly familiar turn of phrase. Wonder where I've seen that before... eusa_think.gif

In what way is anyone 'excepting' (sic) mediocrity?

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Quote: Kosh "What an oddly familiar turn of phrase. Wonder where I've seen that before...
I must of rushed that post. How strange. *accept. I think i was toying with the idea of accept and expect.....

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One of the best comebacks in derby history and yet the same old poster try to turn it into a negative spin,yada yada yada, yes we wernt that good yest but come on who wasn't jumping up and down at the end, Cert made my weekend COYH

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Quote: Fc_exile ""Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

I look forward to Warrington and the remaining matches of 2016. Enjoy.'"

Please, please, please, omnipotent one, enlighten me with your words of wisdom. When was I idiotic or stupid? I have a different opinion to you and all the other negative posters, plus when faced with contradictory posts you like certain other posters, supposedly take the moral highground and berate said opposition. Don't bother to reply, it will just be nastiness again. By the way, I do enjoy watching FC in person and have done for many years. I've also had countless discussions over the years with supporters as youself and often left wondering why you bother.

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Quote: Fc_exile "Yes we won, but why don't we expect more. Why do we except mediocrity more than most other clubs. We beat Hull KR for goodness sake, yes we came back but it was not and is not good enough.

Lets deal with facts, as Benitez would say;
In the previous 2 seasons - against Wire we have won 1 out of 5 games; Leeds we have won 1 out of 6 games; Wigan we have won 0 out of 4 games, conceding on average 40 points per game against Wigan.

These will be the same fans that will still have the blind faith going into Warrington on Monday.'"


I am always puzzled by this phase, accepting mediocrity. At no point in those first 60 minutes did I notice any Hull fan in the crowd simply clapping and saying "oh well, never mind". I saw plenty very much voicing their concern. As fans we have one basic choice. support the team (attend, and back then vocally and financially) or choose to stay at away. If you think the latter helps, then you and I have very different opinions.

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Quote: Armavinit "Are you Bumpy in disguise? Your obviously not a fan, but a follower from afar. Bumpy?'"


Quote: Armavinit " Please, please, please, omnipotent one, enlighten me with your words of wisdom. When was I idiotic or stupid? I have a different opinion to you and all the other negative posters, plus when faced with contradictory posts you like certain other posters, supposedly take the moral highground and berate said opposition. Don't bother to reply, it will just be nastiness again. By the way, I do enjoy watching FC in person and have done for many years. I've also had countless discussions over the years with supporters as youself and often left wondering why you bother.'"


No moral high-ground taken. You were idiotic to suggest a) I'm not a fan and b) perhaps geographical location or willingness to PAY and watch my team limits my legitimacy to post or have an opinion.

I welcome a healthy, hearty debate. Enjoy the Warrington game, Armavinit.

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Quote: Fc_exile "No moral high-ground taken. You were idiotic to suggest a) I'm not a fan and b) perhaps geographical location or willingness to PAY and watch my team limits my legitimacy to post or have an opinion.

I welcome a healthy, hearty debate. Enjoy the Warrington game, Armavinit.'"

I labled you a supporter, idiotic d040.gif not a fan (fanatic) for intimating we'll be going on Monday blindly, that's what fans do but still voice concerns were required.
I've never intimated that free speach should be abandoned just that your attitudes to posters with a different view are idiotic and stupid, again your postings are very similar in wording and attitude to a certain poster who is absent at this time. Coincidence or conspiracy theory? Your turn.

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Quote: Kosh "What an oddly familiar turn of phrase. Wonder where I've seen that before...
I can't standee this thread any longer. Desperate posts from a desperate individual.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I can't standee this thread any longer. Desperate posts from a desperate individual.'"


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What an idiot.

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Whilst the original post does have some merit, the OP was always going to receive a kicking due to it being posted on the back of such an emotional comeback.
I myself was swept away with the euphoria until the Warrington-Widnes result came in which reminded me of the task ahead on Monday.
Regardless of the extremely poor first 60 minutes we got the win, and it is this momentum we need to take into Monday's game.
If we do and put in a good performance (I'd accept a defeat if we play to our potential) then I think we'll have turned the corner.
If it's a submission and a good hiding, the Derby result will have been our proverbial Bread and Circuses.
I think we'll show up and push Wire hard, if not hand them their first defeat of the season.

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Quote: Fc_exile "

Think you missed the point of his post but really dramatic and well worded reposte, in your own individual style.
Anyway back to subject matter. Yes FC were same old same old, for the first 60 but if we can find confidence from the last 20 minutes, who knows what FC will achieve.
Personally, I'm going for a close and dramatic win but I'm a natural optimist and well known for it.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I can't standee this thread any longer. Desperate posts from a desperate individual.'"


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Using my moniker in vain..that's hilarious.

As I said on another thread, Radford has to discuss openly with the players and take on board what they are saying with how we need to go forward.
The players need to be happy, feel comfortable with what they are doing on the pitch and feel motivated to do so otherwise they are very much less likely to do anything remotely useful with regards to playing decent/competitive rugby.

That last 20 minutes showed what we can do, Radford just has to accept that things he is doing are not working (in as an ideal way as we know it can be)
and adjust so we have a balance in play that doesn't leave us open but still allows us some freedom.

He also has to find a way to instill discipline for aspects that are letting us down and putting pressure on ourselves, so far he's not done that.

Is that unrealistic, some basic man management and an understanding of what works and clearly what doesn't?
I'm being realistic when I say I doubt Radford is capable of getting us to play closer to that last 20 minutes than the first 60 throughout the season.
I hope he proves me wrong.

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