Miller counts on the cap regardless of whether he plays (assuming he is in the top 25 earners), the same goes for Shannon.

If not playing a player meant they were off cap then we would get a lot of backloaded contracts and players not playing in their final year.

As the caps live your right, if Miller and/McDonnel left before playing a game all their cap would be available.

if miller isn`t going to get a game how much would it cost to pay him off,and give him his airfare home,so he can kickstart his career,back in aus.

Depends what he wanted. Max is his current contract.

That would depend on whether he has an offer from another club. Unless he has another club to go to why would he leave at all? Would you?

A good chance for the likes of btw and brad fash to get a run out maybe they'll be a big hit no pun intended but do agree with the halfbacks would put miller and rankin together with heremaia and horne on the bench plus two other forwards I don't always agree with stacking the bench with forwards, would like to see talanoa and crookes swap positions we are always banging on about a big centre and talanoa did play there for souths

He'd have no problem getting another club in Aus, but I don't think he even wants to leave, loves it here by all accounts and is usually involved in events such as RW's QOS night.

If he doesn't feature this week I think it will be obvious he isn't in Radford plans or we have salary cap problems.

It cannot be a salary cap issue (See Sheldons post) so it would be down to not being in Radfords plans.

why would it hold Green back?. Tuson is a backrower and Green a prop. I doubt there would be a problem.

It's beginning to increasingly look that way.
Would like to see Milky given a shot.
We'll see this weekend.

Would love to see Miller given a chance. My only worry is that it looks as though we will have a very disjointed pack against Widnes. If Miller plays behind a beaten pack I can see him becoming the scapegoat if we lose.

Well there are rumours of the former, but then there are always going to be. The longer he's left out and we still have slightly misfiring halves though, the more it looks like he's got no future here (and possible stubbornness by Radford if he does keep leaving him out in favour of a combination that isn't really working).

rlhttps://hullfc.com/article/33500/hull-fc-facing-prop-dilemmarl

Carvell definitely out - Feka a possibility at best.

I agree that is a concern. In isolation this weekend is kind of a no-win situation; if he's still left out it doesn't look good for him, whereas if he plays behind a beaten pack he'll probably struggle. I'll be disappointed if he's brought back and then ditched again after only one game where the pack don't lay enough of a platform, hopefully he'll be brought back in for a run of games starting this weekend.