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| Quote: Standee "I don't think you'll find there are grounds for sacking him, even if we wanted to.'"
Really? I'd have thought they'd be a few.
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| Depends what his contract says (obviously).
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| Quote: Sheldon "Playing devils advocate.
What would AP get out of sacking Crookes?
We need a winger with Lineham injured, we need on for next season if Briscoe goes.
Should the RFL step in if we did sack him, refusing to let him play for a year? Otherwise we get penalised while an other club can strengthen?'"
To keep him just because lineham is injured is for the wrong reason. But I agree this is why ap has stood by crookes. Give him the best chance possible in the cc.
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| Quote: Standee "I don't think you'll find there are grounds for sacking him, even if we wanted to.'"
Most businesses would use the grounds 'bringing the business into disrepute', this covers court cases (usually excludes minor driving offences)
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "Most businesses would use the grounds 'bringing the business into disrepute', this covers court cases (usually excludes minor driving offences)'"
Wouldn't it also count as gross misconduct?
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| He has been convicted for assulting a woman and IMO should be sacked.
Unless the club / AP comes out and tells us why he has been harshly dealt with then that's all we have to go on
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| Quote: Chris28 "Wouldn't it also count as gross misconduct?'"
That can be a tricky one in a case like this, since he never ted some-one in the work place and his actions took place outside his working hours, so not subject to internal disciplinary, however once dealt with in a court of law it can then be dealt with in the work place via bringing the business into disrepute.
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "Most businesses would use the grounds 'bringing the business into disrepute', this covers court cases (usually excludes minor driving offences)'"
and most businesses would fail if challenged at an employment tribunal.
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| Quote: Gerrum on side ref "He has been convicted for assulting a woman and IMO should be sacked.
Unless the club / AP comes out and tells us why he has been harshly dealt with then that's all we have to go on'"
Out of interest do you think he should have been sacked if he had assaulted a man ?
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| Could the RFL take it out of AP's hands and stand him down?
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| Quote: Standee "and most businesses would fail if challenged at an employment tribunal.'"
No they would not (seen if happen to a fair few posties over the years), it is in your employment contract as it is with most businesses.
Do you think if people get sent down their jobs are left open ? no they are not & it is the same thing, he has been convicted of an offense
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "Out of interest do you think he should have been sacked if he had assaulted a man ?'"
Excellent!
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| Frankly the sentence is lenient, especeially as he pleaded not guilty and the judge obviously didn't believe a word he had to say.
If he was sacked he could have no complaints.
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| This is a perfect chance for AP to show the club has moved forwards and get rid him, both HKR and FC have had problems in the past regarding holding onto players for to long after been convicted of crimes.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "This is a perfect chance for AP to show the club has moved forwards and get rid him, both HKR and FC have had problems in the past regarding holding onto players for to long after been convicted of crimes.'"
I agree with that, plenty of talented players out there who would love the opportunities afforded to these players & would no doubt act in a professional manner like they are supposed to. Hardly irreplaceable these d1ckheads are they!
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