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We have apparently approached Chris Thorman regarding a coaching role
[url:nefkl24phttps://www.totalrl.com/super-league-club-approaches-former-hull-fc-and-huddersfield-giants-halfback-for-coaching-role/#google_vignette[/url:nefkl24p
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Reading the piece in the mail yesterday I expect grix will be here
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| Quote: "="mwindass":3v7zhtihPart time role seems odd'" :3v7zhtih
Maybe we've obviously realised, we need a full time attack coach.
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| Quote: "="weaver93":3d8qsrhdMaybe we've obviously realised, we need a full time attack coach.
Id personally go for Ryan Sheridan.'" :3d8qsrhd
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| Quote: "="mwindass":lzmbsklcPart time role seems odd'" :lzmbsklc
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| Quote: "="weaver93":1apfzzqiMaybe we've obviously realised, we need a full time attack coach.
Id personally go for Ryan Sheridan.'" :1apfzzqi
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An interview with IMG has revealed the TV deal went from £40m a year to 21.5m and of course SKY now getting to show every game...great work from the administrators as always.
Never mind a new investor at HullFC the whole sport needs a new investor or it'll go to go part time.
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| Quote: "="UllFC":3ncotvwsAn interview with IMG has revealed the TV deal went from £40m a year to 21.5m and of course SKY now getting to show every game...great work from the administrators as always.
Never mind a new investor at HullFC the whole sport needs a new investor or it'll go to go part time.'" :3ncotvws
That’s shocking and further example of the inability of the marketing dept and CEO’s at RFL to sell the sport at any sufficient level if at all.
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Interesting piece today in the Mail by Dan as he interviews Simon Grix. As you all know for me the jury is still very much out on him, for whatever he says coaches if they are worth their salt can really influence a group of players and if they can't they shouldn't be in the role. But like all of us involved with the club he's had a bad time and I'm sure those in the know on here will have heard the rumours about the influence and attitude of certain players and what that has had this year on others more impressionable in the squad. He's obviously going to be here next season and as such, we'd all better get on with it. I'd have loved Ryan Sheridan myself, as I really rate him and the way he goes about his business. However it will be interesting to see how he goes, interacts with Lasty and our new head coach, who if he is as tough as he's made out to be will be assessing his co-coaches as well as his wards on the field and hopefully acting as necessary
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Interesting piece today in the Mail by Dan as he interviews Simon Grix. As you all know for me the jury is still very much out on him, for whatever he says coaches if they are worth their salt can really influence a group of players and if they can't they shouldn't be in the role. But like all of us involved with the club he's had a bad time and I'm sure those in the know on here will have heard the rumours about the influence and attitude of certain players and what that has had this year on others more impressionable in the squad. He's obviously going to be here next season and as such, we'd all better get on with it. I'd have loved Ryan Sheridan myself, as I really rate him and the way he goes about his business. However it will be interesting to see how he goes, interacts with Lasty and our new head coach, who if he is as tough as he's made out to be will be assessing his co-coaches as well as his wards on the field and hopefully acting as necessary
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Quote: "="The Dentist Wilf":2z7niyjoInteresting piece today in the Mail by Dan as he interviews Simon Grix. As you all know for me the jury is still very much out on him, for whatever he says coaches if they are worth their salt can really influence a group of players and if they can't they shouldn't be in the role. But like all of us involved with the club he's had a bad time and I'm sure those in the know on here will have heard the rumours about the influence and attitude of certain players and what that has had this year on others more impressionable in the squad. He's obviously going to be here next season and as such, we'd all better get on with it. I'd have loved Ryan Sheridan myself, as I really rate him and the way he goes about his business. However it will be interesting to see how he goes, interacts with Lasty and our new head coach, who if he is as tough as he's made out to be will be assessing his co-coaches as well as his wards on the field and hopefully acting as necessary
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ix-9581747'":2z7niyjo
A good summary, definitely improves my opinion of him.
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Quote: "="The Dentist Wilf":2z7niyjoInteresting piece today in the Mail by Dan as he interviews Simon Grix. As you all know for me the jury is still very much out on him, for whatever he says coaches if they are worth their salt can really influence a group of players and if they can't they shouldn't be in the role. But like all of us involved with the club he's had a bad time and I'm sure those in the know on here will have heard the rumours about the influence and attitude of certain players and what that has had this year on others more impressionable in the squad. He's obviously going to be here next season and as such, we'd all better get on with it. I'd have loved Ryan Sheridan myself, as I really rate him and the way he goes about his business. However it will be interesting to see how he goes, interacts with Lasty and our new head coach, who if he is as tough as he's made out to be will be assessing his co-coaches as well as his wards on the field and hopefully acting as necessary
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ix-9581747'":2z7niyjo
A good summary, definitely improves my opinion of him.
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Quote: "="The Dentist Wilf":1lmu073aInteresting piece today in the Mail by Dan as he interviews Simon Grix. As you all know for me the jury is still very much out on him, for whatever he says coaches if they are worth their salt can really influence a group of players and if they can't they shouldn't be in the role. But like all of us involved with the club he's had a bad time and I'm sure those in the know on here will have heard the rumours about the influence and attitude of certain players and what that has had this year on others more impressionable in the squad. He's obviously going to be here next season and as such, we'd all better get on with it. I'd have loved Ryan Sheridan myself, as I really rate him and the way he goes about his business. However it will be interesting to see how he goes, interacts with Lasty and our new head coach, who if he is as tough as he's made out to be will be assessing his co-coaches as well as his wards on the field and hopefully acting as necessary
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ix-9581747'":1lmu073a
Pretty fair assessment Pete and one you'd be hard pressed to argue against. For me personally after such a horrendous season even though Grix was only an interim I'd have said thanks for your efforts and parted ways. He was brought in by Smith and he has certain foibles that are very Smithesque so I'd have preferred that complete break. As the Leader of a group for me he failed the audition and he seemed to come across as a negative character and quite defeatest a number of times.
Maybe Cartwright has seen something in him and is prepared to give him a chance under his tutelage.
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Quote: "="The Dentist Wilf":1lmu073aInteresting piece today in the Mail by Dan as he interviews Simon Grix. As you all know for me the jury is still very much out on him, for whatever he says coaches if they are worth their salt can really influence a group of players and if they can't they shouldn't be in the role. But like all of us involved with the club he's had a bad time and I'm sure those in the know on here will have heard the rumours about the influence and attitude of certain players and what that has had this year on others more impressionable in the squad. He's obviously going to be here next season and as such, we'd all better get on with it. I'd have loved Ryan Sheridan myself, as I really rate him and the way he goes about his business. However it will be interesting to see how he goes, interacts with Lasty and our new head coach, who if he is as tough as he's made out to be will be assessing his co-coaches as well as his wards on the field and hopefully acting as necessary
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ix-9581747'":1lmu073a
Pretty fair assessment Pete and one you'd be hard pressed to argue against. For me personally after such a horrendous season even though Grix was only an interim I'd have said thanks for your efforts and parted ways. He was brought in by Smith and he has certain foibles that are very Smithesque so I'd have preferred that complete break. As the Leader of a group for me he failed the audition and he seemed to come across as a negative character and quite defeatest a number of times.
Maybe Cartwright has seen something in him and is prepared to give him a chance under his tutelage.
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It’s a sad article about a guy who when
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Maybe Cartwright has seen something in him and is prepared to give him a chance under his tutelage.
As you say if Cartwright is indeed the Coach as reported that has exacting standards and demands on his personnel then it's likely he stands up to the task or will be gone.'" :480049n8
I think when interviewed after games most of which we were battered its hard to be upbeat and if he was hed get criticised! Was unaware of player influence in the changing room. But we dont know detail. On the face of it he hasnt done great but he has gained a lot and hopefully this will benefit Hull next season |
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Good job Cartwright got himself fixed probably would have found himself unemployed with Walters getting the sack.
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Quote: "="UllFC":1768133xAn interview with IMG has revealed the TV deal went from £40m a year to 21.5m and of course SKY now getting to show every game...great work from the administrators as always.
Never mind a new investor at HullFC the whole sport needs a new investor or it'll go to go part time.'" :1768133x
Lots of people quick to point the finger at IMG, but forget that the RFL was struggling in the first place, hence the need to bring them in
https://www.sportbusiness.com/2024/09/m ... and-minds/
This article is really good and puts a bit more context to IMGs plans for the sport. The TV deal was always going to go down with a product that was getting a bit stale and no real competition for bidding rights, why would sky need to pay more than £21m if they don't need to? The real test of IMGs success will be seeing what the TV deal is at the end of 2026? When the current one runs out. Getting all the games on TV is a good step, the next one should be to stagger the kick off times so every one kicks off at a different time and try get more on the main sky channels and off sky sports+ |
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Never mind a new investor at HullFC the whole sport needs a new investor or it'll go to go part time.'" :1768133x
Lots of people quick to point the finger at IMG, but forget that the RFL was struggling in the first place, hence the need to bring them in
https://www.sportbusiness.com/2024/09/m ... and-minds/
This article is really good and puts a bit more context to IMGs plans for the sport. The TV deal was always going to go down with a product that was getting a bit stale and no real competition for bidding rights, why would sky need to pay more than £21m if they don't need to? The real test of IMGs success will be seeing what the TV deal is at the end of 2026? When the current one runs out. Getting all the games on TV is a good step, the next one should be to stagger the kick off times so every one kicks off at a different time and try get more on the main sky channels and off sky sports+ | |
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| Quote: "="Cuddleclub":qj3ifx07Good job Cartwright got himself fixed probably would have found himself unemployed with Walters getting the sack.'" :qj3ifx07
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Quote: "="Steve0":36nlzqamLots of people quick to point the finger at IMG, but forget that the RFL was struggling in the first place, hence the need to bring them in
https://www.sportbusiness.com/2024/09/m ... and-minds/
This article is really good and puts a bit more context to IMGs plans for the sport. The TV deal was always going to go down with a product that was getting a bit stale and no real competition for bidding rights, why would sky need to pay more than £21m if they don't need to? The real test of IMGs success will be seeing what the TV deal is at the end of 2026? When the current one runs out. Getting all the games on TV is a good step, the next one should be to stagger the kick off times so every one kicks off at a different time and try get more on the main sky channels and off sky sports+'":36nlzqam
Getting all the games on TV is the worst thing they could have done.
Just leads to more supporter apathy about attending matches
BBC are also not interested in R/L.They seem to have just outbid Channel four solely so Channel four dont have any TV rights rather than any interest in the sport as can be seen from their lack of adverstising games.BBC2 one week BBC red button another week the odd game on BBC1 its just a shambles |
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https://www.sportbusiness.com/2024/09/m ... and-minds/
This article is really good and puts a bit more context to IMGs plans for the sport. The TV deal was always going to go down with a product that was getting a bit stale and no real competition for bidding rights, why would sky need to pay more than £21m if they don't need to? The real test of IMGs success will be seeing what the TV deal is at the end of 2026? When the current one runs out. Getting all the games on TV is a good step, the next one should be to stagger the kick off times so every one kicks off at a different time and try get more on the main sky channels and off sky sports+'":36nlzqam
Getting all the games on TV is the worst thing they could have done.
Just leads to more supporter apathy about attending matches
BBC are also not interested in R/L.They seem to have just outbid Channel four solely so Channel four dont have any TV rights rather than any interest in the sport as can be seen from their lack of adverstising games.BBC2 one week BBC red button another week the odd game on BBC1 its just a shambles | |
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It’s actually quite a tough game of Guess Who.
Not the kids, and presumably not the ones who left before or shortly after Grix became interim head coach. Not Houghton, Tuimavave or Ese Ese because… obviously. It’d be hard to knock the effort of players like Jordan Lane and Morgan Smith. Fash and Sao got frustrated and lost their heads a bit at times but it is slightly difficult to imagine them as bad influences. Walker, Sutcliffe, Trueman? Maybe disheartened at times, and they’re leaving which can make you a blame magnet in any workplace but none have that sort of reputation, afaik, or give that vibe. The group of young loanee forwards, or any of the new signings - Briscoe, Aydin, Chamberlain, all seem unlikely candidates. |
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| Quote: "="Mild Rover":1kmqbfuvIt’s actually quite a tough game of Guess Who.
Not the kids, and presumably not the ones who left before or shortly after Grix became interim head coach. Not Houghton, Tuimavave or Ese Ese because… obviously. It’d be hard to knock the effort of players like Jordan Lane and Morgan Smith. Fash and Sao got frustrated and lost their heads a bit at times but it is slightly difficult to imagine them as bad influences. Walker, Sutcliffe, Trueman? Maybe disheartened at times, and they’re leaving which can make you a blame magnet in any workplace but none have that sort of reputation, afaik, or give that vibe. The group of young loanee forwards, or any of the new signings - Briscoe, Aydin, Chamberlain, all seem unlikely candidates.'" :1kmqbfuv
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A mix of wanting to be clear and self indulgence. 
Like, I don’t know whether your paraphrasing of my ramble is to suggest I was making an admission of ignorance or to suggest that I was accusing Roam Ranger or Wilf of that.
There was also an implication that talk of the 2024 Hull FC playing group having a bad attitude doesn’t ring very true to me. Fitness and quality seemed like much bigger issues. |
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