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| Quote ="Milky121086"Right thank god that season is now behind us!!! We can all now move on with a modicum at least of optimisim of whats to come in the next season or two under JC and his newllook on and off field team. I fully expect us to bring in one or two more signings, one of whcioh i have a feeling will be a suprise out of left field top signing (i have no intel, just a gut feeling) Given that i expect s to bring in more then the below is what i expect us to line up like in 2025...
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Martin
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Cust
Ese Ese
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Lane
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Interchanges
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Holmes
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Aydin'"
I was feeling optimistic until you posted that team. Full of kids, old men, players out of position and unfit and/or injury prone ones
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| Quote ="Dave K."I really like us to make a statement with a domestic signing, if we have monet offer a fee to someone who would improve us, like we use to with the likes of Westernan and Sneyd.
It might be turned down, but it's a worth a try, Leeds salary cap is really tight so make an offer for someone like Newman.'"
Newman is talented but continually loses his head over nothing plus seems to switch off
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I was feeling optimistic until you posted that team. Full of kids, old men, players out of position and unfit and/or injury prone ones'"
Why was you optimistic then?
You know who Hull have signed. Who else was going to be in the team?
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| Quote ="Milky121086"Right thank god that season is now behind us!!! We can all now move on with a modicum at least of optimisim of whats to come in the next season or two under JC and his newllook on and off field team. I fully expect us to bring in one or two more signings, one of whcioh i have a feeling will be a suprise out of left field top signing (i have no intel, just a gut feeling) Given that i expect s to bring in more then the below is what i expect us to line up like in 2025...
Rapana
Martin
Hardaker
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Briscoe
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Cust
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Lane
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Interchanges
Burouh
Holmes
NEW PROP
Aydin'"
Agree on signings. Still think there will be some to go and hopefully 2-3 to come in.
As others have stated, most important pre season of Abdul's career.
I still think we might see Cust start with Sezer in the halves and if Ligi goes then we need a couple of more props.
Not sure who is available,
Bienek?
Cooper?
Or do we use the quota spot on a prop and try and bring in an British centre?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I was feeling optimistic until you posted that team. Full of kids, old men, players out of position and unfit and/or injury prone ones'"
You? Optimistic?? Have a word!
As per Irregular hoops response, you know who weve signed, you know what positions they play, please do offer some form of constructive feedback as to who you would have in the team o improve it with what will likely be available? I mean aside from maybe moving rapana to wing and moy to full back i think its best we have right now no?
That may well change with new signings etc but id say the above with the right team off the field behind it would be capable of moving up the table IMO, say around 8th? I don't see anything or anyone that give me reasons to think the likes of Huddersfield, or Cas will finish above us, even Wakefield tbf, im not buying all the hype around them, i still think they will be bottom 2 or 3 and Salford will surely struggle to go round again, think they will likely have a drop off too, Unsure on how Leeds will go, they could finish anywhere from 4th to 10th IMO and Leigh are gonna go through HUGE change so there's no telling how much the players leaving will hurt them aswell. The gap will close between 6th to 12th next year i think.
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| Quote ="Milky121086"You? Optimistic?? Have a word!
As per Irregular hoops response, you know who weve signed, you know what positions they play, please do offer some form of constructive feedback as to who you would have in the team o improve it with what will likely be available? I mean aside from maybe moving rapana to wing and moy to full back i think its best we have right now no?
That may well change with new signings etc but id say the above with the right team off the field behind it would be capable of moving up the table IMO, say around 8th? I don't see anything or anyone that give me reasons to think the likes of Huddersfield, or Cas will finish above us, even Wakefield tbf, im not buying all the hype around them, i still think they will be bottom 2 or 3 and Salford will surely struggle to go round again, think they will likely have a drop off too, Unsure on how Leeds will go, they could finish anywhere from 4th to 10th IMO and Leigh are gonna go through HUGE change so there's no telling how much the players leaving will hurt them aswell. The gap will close between 6th to 12th next year i think.'"
Be different if we signed Lee Kershaw.
That's been his one and only suggestion so far, says it all really.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Agree on signings. Still think there will be some to go and hopefully 2-3 to come in.
As others have stated, most important pre season of Abdul's career.
I still think we might see Cust start with Sezer in the halves and if Ligi goes then we need a couple of more props.
Not sure who is available,
Quote Bienek?'"
Cooper?
Or do we use the quota spot on a prop and try and bring in an British centre?'"
From what I've seen this season he has developed in to a lot better player and worth taking a punt on. Fitness has always been an issue but the new regime should address that.
If Sao goes replace him with Cooper and use his quota spot for Leutele. The jigsaw falls in to place
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"In the Sky interview with him, Lee Briers alluded to being offered the Hull job.
Not sure he’d have been what we needed at this time.'"
If that had come to pass (which it obviously didn't!), his appointment would have been a huge 50/50 gamble on our part at a time when we really are not in a position to take wild stabs in the dark.
If, in five years time, Briers turns out to be a top class coach then we may find ourselves looking back at this moment and thinking 'what if?' but there is no guarantee that will be the case and, as I said, we really are not in a position to throw the dice and hope a double-six comes off.
Don't think he was the right fit for us, at least for 2025/26, and we almost certainly would not be the best option for him right now. Hull Fc 2024 is no place for a rookie coach looking to make a name for himself. We represent the supreme gamble for anyone in that scenario.
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| Quote ="Milky121086"Right thank god that season is now behind us!!! We can all now move on with a modicum at least of optimisim of whats to come in the next season or two under JC and his newllook on and off field team. I fully expect us to bring in one or two more signings, one of whcioh i have a feeling will be a suprise out of left field top signing (i have no intel, just a gut feeling) Given that i expect s to bring in more then the below is what i expect us to line up like in 2025...
Rapana
Martin
Hardaker
NEW CENTRE
Briscoe
Abdul
Sezer
Cust
Ese Ese
Ashworth
Cartwright
Lane
Asiata
Interchanges
Burouh
Holmes
NEW PROP
Aydin'"
your new left centre is called Chamberlain
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| Using “Your” and not “Our”
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I was feeling optimistic until you posted that team. Full of kids, old men, players out of position and unfit and/or injury prone ones'"
I don’t think the side is great and lacks quality, strike and should be way under the salary cap but what players are out of position? Cust is questionable but looked ok playing for Wigan at 9 in a league winning side.
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| There will be a few unhappy posters but well deserved Jordan Lane, player of the year.
Thought him, Ese Ese and Lewis Martin were stand outs.
Separate comment, I noticed
Jed Cartwright at end of the game with his shirt off.
He looks absolutely ripped.
a good sign of our strength and conditioning to come for next season.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire7"There will be a few unhappy posters but well deserved Jordan Lane, player of the year.
Thought him, Ese Ese and Lewis Martin were stand outs.
Separate comment, I noticed
Jed Cartwright at end of the game with his shirt off.
He looks absolutely ripped.
a good sign of our strength and conditioning to come for next season.'"
Well deserved for what? Putting in slightly more effort than the dross around him? If this is the clubs standard for a top player then god help us
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Why was you optimistic then?
You know who Hull have signed. Who else was going to be in the team?'"
I'd removed it from my memory then you planted it right back in there
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| Quote ="Milky121086"You? Optimistic?? Have a word!
As per Irregular hoops response, you know who weve signed, you know what positions they play, please do offer some form of constructive feedback as to who you would have in the team o improve it with what will likely be available? I mean aside from maybe moving rapana to wing and moy to full back i think its best we have right now no?
That may well change with new signings etc but id say the above with the right team off the field behind it would be capable of moving up the table IMO, say around 8th? I don't see anything or anyone that give me reasons to think the likes of Huddersfield, or Cas will finish above us, even Wakefield tbf, im not buying all the hype around them, i still think they will be bottom 2 or 3 and Salford will surely struggle to go round again, think they will likely have a drop off too, Unsure on how Leeds will go, they could finish anywhere from 4th to 10th IMO and Leigh are gonna go through HUGE change so there's no telling how much the players leaving will hurt them aswell. The gap will close between 6th to 12th next year i think.'"
I'll bet you were one of the ones predicting we'd challenge for the play offs with the signings we made last season
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| Quote ="Dave K."Be different if we signed Lee Kershaw.
That's been his one and only suggestion so far, says it all really.'"
Cheap and better than what we have currently. People don't agree because they don't want to admit I'm right but I am. If we picked up 2 or 3 solid forwards at the same level as kershaw we'd be a whole lot better
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"I don’t think the side is great and lacks quality, strike and should be way under the salary cap but what players are out of position? Cust is questionable but looked ok playing for Wigan at 9 in a league winning side.'"
The half back at hooker, the winger at full back, the full back in the centres
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire7"There will be a few unhappy posters but well deserved Jordan Lane, player of the year.
Thought him, Ese Ese and Lewis Martin were stand outs.
Separate comment, I noticed
Jed Cartwright at end of the game with his shirt off.
He looks absolutely ripped.
a good sign of our strength and conditioning to come for next season.'"
Ese ese way above anyone else in the team
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| If you think Kershaw should start in front of Martin then where F ucked
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| As far as Rapana goes, Stuart has mainly selected him at full back this season and the player himself said he's loved it and it's his prefered position for next season.
Zak Hardaker has played centre far more than full back since switiching there for Wigan in 2020 when they signed French.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The half back at hooker, the winger at full back, the full back in the centres'"
I just don’t get it though, since when in rugby league have you had to register one position and then stick to it? There’s no rule, It’s just daft to suggest players can’t swap and change positions at different points or evolve to new roles over time. How many grand finals and cups did Leeds win with Sinfield playing at 6? Arguably better at 13 but had long successful spells at 6.
Hardaker is a decent centre. He might have played more at fullback but he’s simply better than what we have at centre. Richie Barnett played almost all his a career as a fullback and was one of our best centres of the modern era. Gary Connolly is another, Greg Inglis, Latrell Mitchell, Joey Manu are off the top of my head and probably hundreds over the years have played both positions well.
Rapana can play fullback. He’s played there this season at NRL level. He has loads of experience and has a strong kick return, it’s a natural progression. If say Moy has an absolute beast of an off season I’m sure we’ll see Rapana on the wing again at some point but he’ll likely start the season as our best fullback.
Cust I’m not going to argue as a great signing, but he can play hooker at decent level. He did for Wigan, I just don’t think that can be argued. Just because you say ‘he’s a halfback’ doesn’t change that, but like I say Cust is an odd one on every level, I think the coach wants him here for whatever reason.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Well deserved for what? Putting in slightly more effort than the dross around him? If this is the clubs standard for a top player then god help us'"
The kid has played every game apart from one I think it was., when those around him were busy getting sent off. He’s tackled his heart out, had to play in numerous positions to cover for others. If his team mates would have put as much in then we may well have done a tad better.
So yes that is why he was voted for.
I’m not saying he’s a world beater either. We all know why we finished bottom , the squad of 50 plus were just not good enough.
Ese Ese outstanding and caught the eye but for all round effort I’d have to agree lane was stand out.
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"I just don’t get it though, since when in rugby league have you had to register one position and then stick to it? There’s no rule, It’s just daft to suggest players can’t swap and change positions at different points or evolve to new roles over time. How many grand finals and cups did Leeds win with Sinfield playing at 6? Arguably better at 13 but had long successful spells at 6.
Hardaker is a decent centre. He might have played more at fullback but he’s simply better than what we have at centre. Richie Barnett played almost all his a career as a fullback and was one of our best centres of the modern era. Gary Connolly is another, Greg Inglis, Latrell Mitchell, Joey Manu are off the top of my head and probably hundreds over the years have played both positions well.
Rapana can play fullback. He’s played there this season at NRL level. He has loads of experience and has a strong kick return, it’s a natural progression. If say Moy has an absolute beast of an off season I’m sure we’ll see Rapana on the wing again at some point but he’ll likely start the season as our best fullback.
Cust I’m not going to argue as a great signing, but he can play hooker at decent level. He did for Wigan, I just don’t think that can be argued. Just because you say ‘he’s a halfback’ doesn’t change that, but like I say Cust is an odd one on every level, I think the coach wants him here for whatever reason.'"
Yes, lots of players change positions but we've signed 2 players at the ends of their careers who have moved away from their long held positions recently. It would have been far better to play hardaker at full back and sign an actual centreminwhat is probably our weakest position. No one is going to convince me, or any other objective person, that hardaker and Chamberlain are anything other than a bottom 2 or 3 superleague centre partnership
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire7"The kid has played every game apart from one I think it was., when those around him were busy getting sent off. He’s tackled his heart out, had to play in numerous positions to cover for others. If his team mates would have put as much in then we may well have done a tad better.
So yes that is why he was voted for.
I’m not saying he’s a world beater either. We all know why we finished bottom , the squad of 50 plus were just not good enough.
Ese Ese outstanding and caught the eye but for all round effort I’d have to agree lane was stand out.'"
Yet the rest of the players disagree with you. Go figure
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| Hardraker has played over 100 times at the top level at , think he will be fine, nit sure he has the link play to play fullback anymore.
If Rapana is good enough to play fullback (and play really well) for most of the season in the NRL, I'm sure he will go well there in SL.
Cust is an odd one, but at least Cartwright has coached him and maybe sees that he would be a useful signing at halfback or 9.
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