If the above posters are going to continue to pi[is[/is and moan, can they at the very least learn how to use the "quote" facility? It's difficult enough trying to wade through some of the crap on here without having to deconstruct every other post, simply to find out what they were trying to say.

not my fault mate - when I pushed the quote button all I got was -

Of course it is, it's dead easy to bring sponsorship money into the game, that's why we're awash with dosh and it's all being wasted on subsidising London, Welsh and French clubs.

The marketing of the game, including attracting sponsorship, is contracted out to a professional agency that specialises in identifying sponsors. Once identified, the proposals are put to the chairmen of the Superleague clubs and they decide who to go with. So if you're having a dig about the Stobart sponsorship, don't lay the blame at the RFL's door.

Assuming that the money could be found for video referees at all games and to pay for a 2nd referee too, where are all these officials going to magically spring up from? People moan that the current referees aren't good enough, so where will twice as many come from and will more money make them better referees?

Even given all the above, it would still require the match referee(s) to refer a decision to the VR, what if, like over the weekend, they didn't refer anything, or are you suggesting that there should also be an omnipotent referee at all games too, who can overule the officials on the pitch and make decisions that they haven't?

Get over it, we lost. You can blame Ganson all you want to, you can suggest that everything would be solved by simply getting more sponsorship money in. I'm surprised that when Richard Lewis handed his notice in, the RFL didn't beat a path to your door because you obviously have all the answers

Neither is it difficult to edit and sort out, as evidenced here

I would say that Ganson does have an agenda but its nothing to do with being biased against Hull or any other team for that matter it's all about the self promotion of one Mr S Ganson. From what I've seen of him, which admittidly is mainly FC games he is on the whole a decent referee unless the game happens to be on TV in which case he comes out with the "Hollywood" decisions aimed soley to get people talking about him. Sin binning Dobson this week, sending off Adrian Morley early in an international to name just a couple

33 pages of proof of a job well done then Steve!

move on .........

its not going to change anything its Saints Sunday

So much wrong with that it's barely worth a response.



If true the chairmen are to blame too, however I find it highly unlikely they'd turn down cash (numerous offers were on the table) in favour of free advertising, if you think the rfl had nothing to do with it your an idiot. All the stobart deal has done is increase stobart's profile amongst rugby league fans, not rugby league amongst non-fans, the deal has been and was always destined to be a bad decision.



The problem is not that the referee's aren't good enough, they simply have too much to do and can't cope with it. A second referee would half their duties allowing them to focus on one particular aspect of the game. Touch judges or championship referee's would be more than capable of marching the 10 and checking for offside, leaving the main referee (current superleague referee's) to monitor the ruck, this isn't reinventing the wheel, it's already tried and tested.



No obviously not, there will always be wrong/missed calls, that's human nature, what fans want is a reduction in the number of wrong calls and greater consistency across the board. The two ref system has already successfully achieved that. There is no system in sport which can give 100% accuracy with decisions, even hawk eye (cricket/tennis) isn't fully accurate.



Absolute cretin, had you bothered to read the rest of the thread you'd have seen the numerous occasions on which I point out it was FC's fault they lost the game, actually read what's posted before making stuff up.

LOL

If true?

It's very definitely true, the RFL manage and administer Superleague on behalf of the club chairmen. As I stated and as has been stated long and loud enough on numerous occasions, the decision to go with the Stobart deal was agreed by a majority of SL club chairmen and not, as some seem to believe, mandated by the RFL.

So basically you don't know where these extra officials are going to come from or who will be footing the bill for them?

Thought so

Oh and before you start bandying words like "cretin" around, may I suggest you first look up the dictionary definition and then have a read of the AUP.

I wasn't doubting what you said, I said if true the chairmen are to blame, it's clearly true, so they are to blame.



I'm pretty sure I addressed the first point, as for money, granted there's none around at the moment, it's not going to be an instant fix. I'm sure the 'professional agency' would be capable of securing some level of funding? Would clubs be willing to contribute? Would fans accept a £1 increase on tickets if that's where the money would be spent? I don't have the answers and have never claimed to, but it's certainly not impossible nor illogical like you seem to think.




Okay I apologise if that offended you, I take it there's no forthcoming apology for winging at me for something I never said? In fact something which had you bothered to look is something I share your opinion on.

Wasn't it a 50/50 vote, with the RFL making the decision by proxy? That's what I read anyway.


Unless you work for the RFL and have access to that kind of information, no-one will truly "know", but this is a discussion forum and people are entitled to discuss ideas. Personally, I think if you make the officials part-time again (as there definitely hasn't been a significant increase in standards to justify the money), that would free up enough to pay a second referee at games.
And he already answered your question about where they'd come from, something I agree with. It's a cop out to use the "not enough referees of standard" argument if the referees are going to be halving the workload. The standard wouldn't need to be as high as they wouldn't have as much to do, so there'd be plenty available.


The word has two meanings. Looking at the context, it's pretty obvious what meaning was meant. Wind your neck in.

We have a TV pundit here who appears on our major mid-week TV NRL show who said the worst thing that has happened in the game here in recent times has been the introduction of 2 referees and we should go back to one. He is an ex-Australian and NSW Blues player called Mark Geyer. Referees are currently under scrutiny here too especially after State of Origin 1.