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| Quote: Kosh "But you've also said that you don't want Horne to start on Sunday. How is he supposed to improve without game time?
Maybe a better definition of the situation would be that if Gentle doesn't do exactly what you want him to then he's an idiot?'"
Not sure if this suits your agenda but I will re-iterate this for the last time.
If Horney continues to be dire and Gentle continues to use him without exploring other options it is IDIOTIC!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Not sure if this suits your agenda but I will re-iterate this for the last time.
If Horney continues to be dire and Gentle continues to use him without exploring other options it is IDIOTIC!!!!!!!!!'"
I don't have an 'agenda', other than to let Gentle get on with things without trying to tell him how to do his job after a single friendly game or threatening to write him off if he does something I might not agree with over the next couple of weeks. I seem to have more confidence in him than you do.
Relax. Gentle has a lot of work to do to reverse the effects of bad decisions made over the last few years and a brand new team structure to bed in - not least of which is a new HB pairing to get working together. It's going to be a few games into the season before things start to click.
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| Quote: Kosh "I don't have an 'agenda', other than to let Gentle get on with things without trying to tell him how to do his job after a single friendly game or threatening to write him off if he does something I might not agree with over the next couple of weeks. I seem to have more confidence in him than you do.
Relax. Gentle has a lot of work to do to reverse the effects of bad decisions made over the last few years and a brand new team structure to bed in - not least of which is a new HB pairing to get working together. It's going to be a few games into the season before things start to click.'"
At this point I have a lot of confidence in Gentle, my assessment of Horney is not based on 1 friendly yesterday it is based on th last 2 years!! Believe it or not I hoped there would be a little spark yesterday, I honestly do not believe that spark will return on a consistent basis, sadly Horney has had his day imo. I do not buy into all this time to gel not when discussing a seasoned pro who has had over a decade with the club, like mentioned if any of the combination was poor yesterday it should have been Seymour.
Personally I believe friendlies are the best arena to explore options as it allows us to make mistakes at no cost.
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| i think you need one of these marfa
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| Quote: Kosh "Must admit I'm quite excited to see how he goes this season. Seems to have real promise and the right attitude.'"
Me too. For me he should be the next in line for a run at HB should injuries or lack of form dictate that requirement as the season progresses. After all he was in the first team squad last year and was unfortunate to pick up a bad early injury.
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| My first game of the season yesterday and thought it was a good run out for both sides, coaches will have a fair bit of info to go on and no doubt both will have pluses and minuses that they will go away with and work on.
Obviously the biggest minus was the injuries and Hull will be happy to have seemingly come out of a pretty physical game unscathed. I'm happy with the result but to be honest its not the be all and end all, better to win than lose I suppose but as Hull were on their forst hit out and a few HKR players had had 40 minutes it was maybe to be expected.
I'm not sure about all the Horne knockers on here, I didn;t think he was as dire as some have made out. Rovers had the upper hand in the forwards and this showed on both HB's, if FC can get there pack working better then 6 & 7 will be allowed to show if they've got what is needed to take you forward.
Rovers looked like they had some good combinations later on against a tiring FC side and I thought Hall looked dangerous in the 6 position.
FC looked very dangerous from the ruck early on when Houghton's PTB was quicker and I thought we really struggled to handle him. Yeaman looked the worst player on the park, maybe its still a bit of 4 nations hangover or just ring rustiness.
I also think the statement about it being 2 poor sides was a bit harsh, it was more 2 newish sides who need some game time, still the new season wouldn;t be the new season without people making more of what was in essence a runout than is really necessary.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Me too. For me he should be the next in line for a run at HB should injuries or lack of form dictate that requirement as the season progresses. After all he was in the first team squad last year and was unfortunate to pick up a bad early injury.'"
Absolutely. I'm sure he sees it that way as well.
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| Although I agree Horne really hasnt been the Horne of old and his pathetic attempt of tackling what led to one of there tries was really embarrasing, but you could see how much it hurt him to make such a poor attempt and to me we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Almost everyone on the pitch was shocking and needed the hit out. The pack was poor apart from O'carroll who looks a good signing and Mckinnon who looks assured and looks to have some quality pleased me the most.Martin seemed to make the right flank more dangerous and a bit more sound defensively. Seymour bell ringer on dobson near the line proves he aint scared of getting his hands dirty and his kick for the first try was classy and one of the few times he had a pack taking him forward. Im sure I will get slated but I dont want Lynne anywhere near the fullback spot to me he is the most over-rated player at our club and needs to be loaned out to a champ club or somewhere like wakey as he looks out of his depth to me.
Biggest plus was we havent got any injuries. Kr may have won the game but losing Galea is a massive blow to them.
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| Having missed the Derby match through work I am really looking forward to the Bradford game, cannot wait for it to come round.
Come on 'ull
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yesterday I got 10 texts in 5 minutes from the nutty side of my family, was gutted.
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| Quote: Tongan Mafia " Seymour bell ringer on dobson near the line proves he aint scared of getting his hands dirty and his kick for the first try was classy and one of the few times he had a pack taking him forward '"
I may be wrong but wasnt it McKinnon who placed the kick for the first try?
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| Quote: Pookie "I may be wrong but wasnt it McKinnon who placed the kick for the first try?'" Nah it was Seymour from acting half.
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| Quote: Pookie "I may be wrong but wasnt it McKinnon who placed the kick for the first try?'"
Certain it was Seymour
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| never ever from any sets of fans anywere have i ever seen such an over reaction to a 'friendly'! 1st 1of the season at that! Horne was never gonna show up that much,to many subs,team conceded to many pens,made to many errors! Lyne wasnt looking to bad for the short spell he was on concidering after 2 off season ops and only starting running again a month ago! took the high ball well in the wind and put himself in a bad position and paid the price. cleared of a facial fracture but been monitered for concussion! the forwards were rusty but playing against a team with minutes under their belts and playing it with a smaller bench and treating it as a last hit out were as we were simply starting out! So to recap we should play a 2nd row as a full back as opposed to playing to our strengths and be more concerned about the what the other team does! we should also destroy any hope of a settled half back combo instantly after 1 'frendly' . few more pens than id have liked and too many errors but mostly what i expected! i went for 18.32 rovers before the game and wasnt far out! id expect a step up against bradford and then a bigger step up against wire! but still dont expect miracles yet! think this team wont play its best stuff till april at least but saw enough yesterday more so early on to be optimistic! some on here should look that word up!!
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| People are going way OTT about Lyne and Horne. It was Lynes first game at full back he was on the pitch for around 15mins didn't do much wrong, did well to take the ball when he got knocked out perhaps he should have jumped but he'll learn. People keep saying about trying the youngsters and when one gets knocked out playing in a new position we should ship him out Also saying Whiting to fullback is typical off this forum, he catches the ball gets tackled, when he pushes up he runs the most radical lines with his arms in the air when theres 3 defenders on the player with ball in hand. I want Gentle to stick with his plans, when players get injured we just replace that one position not 3 or 4.
It was Hornes 1st game with Seymour and under Gentle. Im not Hornes biggest fan but he is the best 6 we have. The last couple of seasons are irrelevant, hes a professional and will go out and do what Agar tells him to do. If Horne gets injured and we bring in Ellis or Nicklas i'd give it 2 games before people are moaning about them.
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| Quote: barham red "My first game of the season yesterday and thought it was a good run out for both sides, coaches will have a fair bit of info to go on and no doubt both will have pluses and minuses that they will go away with and work on.
Obviously the biggest minus was the injuries and Hull will be happy to have seemingly come out of a pretty physical game unscathed. I'm happy with the result but to be honest its not the be all and end all, better to win than lose I suppose but as Hull were on their forst hit out and a few HKR players had had 40 minutes it was maybe to be expected.
I'm not sure about all the Horne knockers on here, I didn;t think he was as dire as some have made out. Rovers had the upper hand in the forwards and this showed on both HB's, if FC can get there pack working better then 6 & 7 will be allowed to show if they've got what is needed to take you forward.
Rovers looked like they had some good combinations later on against a tiring FC side and I thought Hall looked dangerous in the 6 position.
FC looked very dangerous from the ruck early on when Houghton's PTB was quicker and I thought we really struggled to handle him. Yeaman looked the worst player on the park, maybe its still a bit of 4 nations hangover or just ring rustiness.
I also think the statement about it being 2 poor sides was a bit harsh, it was more 2 newish sides who need some game time, still the new season wouldn;t be the new season without people making more of what was in essence a runout than is really necessary.'"
Pretty good post.
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