The brother? Never, he'll be there til the day he dies

It wasn't that's why I've never been to one. It's a private company putting on an event to please a section of it's fan base. That's why I've never been to one.

He has got a chance. That's not our decision. I've no doubt he can talk a good game but unless he's been to coaching school in the off season I can't see where things will improve massively. If long picks up an injury early in the season and we're rubbish again will it be agar's fault?

We had numerous occassions last season where players openly admitted that they weren't considering the opposition sgame plan. It's like going back to the 70's

I really hope he proves me wrong but there has been no evidence whatsoever in the year and a half that he has been in charge that he has the ability to be a successful coach at a big club like Hull

I thought it was noughts and crosses to be honest or dot to dot.

In fact he has a game of battleships with the opposing coach and if he wins we get the 2pts. He must be really awful at it with win ration of just of 30%

I have been looking at this thread a bit and think myelf its not so much about Agar being a good talker because at times he gets a bit tongue tied but for me having been there and seen the body language etc. I would say it was more down to sincerity and integrity. He seemed to know we had beeen hurting and all but admitted that this was his last chance, there is no arrognce there and he admits he has not always got it right! I think the feeling from the Brother and a lot of other doubters at the end of the night was that we all want despoerately to succeed, but it would be a bonus if we can succeeed under Agar because he is with us rather than allouf and distant from us.

I got the impression that if he does not succeed he understands that is it for him, as I said not an ounce of arrogance, and with his presentation which really needed to be seen to be appreciated he talked to the fans as equals not, as many coaches do as folks who really 'Dont understand' or are not clever enough to have the grasp of things! If he is to improve as a coach as you say, it will be on the back of delegating the attacking stuff to Longy, whilst he does what he appears to do best having an over view of disipline, working practise, work ethics etc etc.

Just my take on it though! I think you had to be there to judge it !

I'd never question his honesty or his integrity. It's his ability that is the problem.