Exactly pace wasn't an issue, we score plenty of long range tries that season, we did lack some creativity with Shaul and Carlos as pivots, but the main reason we didn't win the GF, was we switched off after the cup win.

Every season since about 2013 we've switched off in August and September (not counting 2020 as it was on very different timescales) its a recurring problem under several coaches abd it didnt seem to matter if we were top4 or bottom 4 at the end of July either.

I hope and pray we arent going to do the same this year. I cant take any more

you have 17 players in the squad.Three out of 17 is hardly great and by the way Litten is not fast

bit of sucking up there to the forum Moderator
Chris normally does post common sense but cant be seen to be too left or right wing due to his Mod position

dont think so
he doesnt know the way to Paris only Leigh
In fact he only ended up at Salford because he took the wrong turning from Leigh

How many more than three out of the team that won the last challenge cup have pace?

Gareth O'Brien
Tom Briscoe
Ed Chamberlain
Zak Hardaker
Josh Charnley

Ben Reynolds
Lachlan Lam

Tom Amone
Edwin Ipape
Robbie Mulhern
Kai O'Donnell
Jack Hughes
John Asiata

You will love Hardaker then

Some people just don't seem able to deal with opinions that don't align with their own. They should create one of those locked down forums like the dobbins have where everyone can agree that everything is wonderful. I'll just stick it out here and say my piece and ignore or counter anything I don't agree with. I won't start whining when someone posts things I don't like

I'm neither here nor there, full on criticism or an everything is rosey in the garden sort of bloke.
What is quite interesting is that plenty who thought Smith was the answer to all our problems (an experienced head coach and the missing piece of the jigsaw) are the same ones who are now promoting others to be patient.
I'm not against that but when they've got it so wrong in the past you do start to wonder about their overall judgement.
Probably natural optimists which isn't a bad thing I suppose.

good post. smith was never the answer, less so when he brought stan with him. A complete dinosaur out of touch with the current state of the game.

People should think and believe what they want, challenge others on their differing opinions but no way should we be trying to shut up or censor someone just because we disagree with what they are saying

The club can do no wrong in people's eyes, if you went back a year you'd have people backing the club replacing Swift for Tindall, supporting the signing of Okunbor despite his off field antics, thinking Pele was just what we needed to add some size up front, Morgan Smith would be bargain buy of the season, Nu Brown would be brilliant because he played once for the kiwis etc, people can and should be allowed to be sceptical because there's a high chance we'll be in this exact situation again this time next year with bang average recruitment

Absolutely people have different opinions. If we where asked to name an Hull FC team if all fully fit most would be different. Usually supporters of any team tend to back them. Yes we don't agree with every move or signing but tend to get behind them . What boils the p.iss is when some find no positive aspect of anything to do with FC. If they upset and depress you so much don't bother.

The club can also do no right with some people, saying there has been nothing positive for 6 years is a massive reaction, some great games. Even this year the, which has been awful, there are been some positives to focus on. Some on here just focus on the negatives and go missing when something positive happens. Look at Aydin, most thought it was signing and downgrade on Brown (including me), but how many of the those have praised Myler for that signing.

Even Asista, certain people focusing on his injuries, rather than what a great player he is and haven't looked at the fact for most of his career he has has a very good injury record.

By the same token, the club can do nothing right with some folks either.

Everyone knows we've been e for the last few years, but the club are actually rebuilding the squad for next year. Nature of the cap is we can't sign marquee players in every position. What we have done is recruit consistent and committed performers who are tried and tested SL players.

The pace thing everyone is banging on about is a bit of a red herring too, apart from Wigan I can't think of many teams with more than 1 or 2 pace merchants. The key is having players pushing up, which admittedly we've always seemed bad at.

Squad was always bottom 4 on paper this season, most fans who I spoke to didn't expect us to do particularly well with no hope of top 6.

I expect that to change next season. Will we get top 6? I don't know, but I expect us to make a good go of it.

Also I don't think there are one poster on here who thinks the club can do no wrong, most are balanced posters, however there are a couple on here who never post anything positive. Nothing about Moy, improved performances etc, just all negative.

They have it in for Myler and won't give him or the players signed a chance.

As mentioned before, but no one replies, which club directly above us apart from Wakey, has done good federation signings?