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| Quote: *1865* "Don't think anybody started off wanting Radford to fail, but plenty went far too early on him and would rather see him fail and save face.'"
Quote: *1865* "However they do deny it. It usually starts off with 'I'd love him to succeed, but' or 'nobody wanted him to do well more than me, but'.'"
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| Quote: WIZEB "Nah, not really.
I had no dislike for PG just didn't think he had it in him.
Don't know if Lee has either but him and his team are giving it a good shot.
The trouble with you and others is that you don't actually want him to make it.
All a bit sad really.'"
But Gentle took us to Wembley and despite an horrendous injury list at times we finished sixth.People may criticise some of the signings Gentle made but the Wembley appearance alone put a lot of money back into the club.
Radford has had his own squad this season, we struggled to make the top eight yet some fans seem to see that as progress.
its fine being competitive on the field but I want a coach who can see the deficiencies on the field and rectify them so that we fans can see progress on the field.I expect us to win matches whoever we are playing especially at home.
With Radford we have not seen progress.he is also guilty of false loyalty to certain players like Yeaman.
It has taken an injury to Yeaman and a young rookie with a bit of pace and good footwork to show just how poor he has been for most of the season yet Radford played him.That to me is not the sign of a good coach.
Whilst I will always support the club my opinion since his appointment has always been we will never be a top team with Radford in charge
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| Quote: airliebird9 "Why not knock Radford??
The club have the structure, the facilities, the finance and a chairman that will spend money. Therefore the squad we have that you say is 'not great' is down to who?? Who's job is it to build a squad that can finish in the top 4?? The coach maybe
Do you think that Mini,Pryce,Sneyd have been bad signings? do you think that Radford would not have brought others in if he could have.The fact is that some want him to fail and getting in the eight has been a huge disappointment for many .The Derby showed what spirit Radford has achieved when in the past losing Ellis and Pryce early would have seen us fold.Radford get flack when we lose but never gets credit when we win and again for many that would be a real No No.Its a real shame that after a good Derby win and top eight secured we still have negativity ..says it all really
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| Quote: bonaire "Radford has had his own squad this season, we struggled to make the top eight yet some fans seem to see that as progress.'"
To be clear, some fans see that as progress on [ilast year[/i. Which it is. I haven't seen a single poster suggest that this season represents progress over Gentle's last season - at most it's been suggested that we're about at the same level. However, there has been some interesting stats posted on our points return that indicates we could well end up with a superior return overall this season.
I never wanted Radford in the first place. I'm still of the opinion that we need a better coach. But he clearly is getting [isome[/i things right and not giving credit where it's due is plain dishonest IMO.
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| Quote: Kosh "To be clear, some fans see that as progress on [ilast year[/i. Which it is. I haven't seen a single poster suggest that this season represents progress over Gentle's last season - at most it's been suggested that we're about at the same level. However, there has been some interesting stats posted on our points return that indicates we could well end up with a superior return overall this season.
I never wanted Radford in the first place. I'm still of the opinion that we need a better coach. But he clearly is getting [isome[/i things right and not giving credit where it's due is plain dishonest IMO.'"
Seems about right and you have the nous to show a bit of honest objectivity.
Those who have railroaded themselves from the get-go haven't the same ability.
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| Quote: hokeydokey " Do you think that Mini,Pryce,Sneyd have been bad signings?'"
Mini has being superb, Pryce has exceeded what I thought he would do, Sneyd hasn't justified his £100k pricetag and whilst he has clearly done some brilliant stuff, he was average in the first half of the season and still his open field kicking isn't as good as expected.
Quote: hokeydokey "The fact is that some want him to fail and getting in the eight has been a huge disappointment for many .'"
Please name, names, frankly that's nonsense.
Quote: hokeydokey " The Derby showed what spirit Radford has achieved when in the past losing Ellis and Pryce early would have seen us fold.'"
Seriously, there have being numerous games were we just folded, if we'd had the endeavor and heart shown as there was Friday we'd be in a much higher position than we are.
Quote: hokeydokey "Radford get flack when we lose but never gets credit when we win and again for many that would be a real No No. ..says it all really'"
Again, this is complete & utter hogwash and totally unfounded
Quote: hokeydokey "Its a real shame that after a good Derby win and top eight secured we still have negativity'"
Yes, there is still negativity and do you know why? Because we are going to struggle to make the play-offs as we've struggled to get into the top 8, large parts of the season have seen us playing bang average attacking rugby and we've been consistantly inconsistant. The owner is merging our academy, we're losing yet another young/quality player, we've lost our talisman captain, probably permenantly.
But yeah, Radford is a fecking amazingly inspiring coach
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| Watched the match last night again yes sad I know. But Houghton never stopped it was amazing the effort and tackles he does. I knock westerman sometimes but likewise the bloke was all over the place . Thought Logan brought a lot of energy to the team often being firstup at chasing our kicks seems to have put a bit of pace on as well. Green was the other one who ran hard and straight. Anyway well done lads
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Mini has being superb, Pryce has exceeded what I thought he would do, Sneyd hasn't justified his £100k pricetag and whilst he has clearly done some brilliant stuff, he was average in the first half of the season and still his open field kicking isn't as good as expected.
Please name, names, frankly that's nonsense.
Seriously, there have being numerous games were we just folded, if we'd had the endeavor and heart shown as there was Friday we'd be in a much higher position than we are.
Again, this is complete & utter hogwash and totally unfounded
Yes, there is still negativity and do you know why? Because we are going to struggle to make the play-offs as we've struggled to get into the top 8, large parts of the season have seen us playing bang average attacking rugby and we've been consistantly inconsistant. The owner is merging our academy, we're losing yet another young/quality player, we've lost our talisman captain, probably permenantly.
But yeah, Radford is a fecking amazingly inspiring coach
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| Sneyd has been great without him we lose a few of the close games like Warrington, Wakey and Cas and finish outside the 8. Not everything he does comes off, but our most important player IMO.
Also I don't what his fee has to do with anything, money well spent anyway so far.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Sneyd has been great without him we lose a few of the close games like Warrington, Wakey and Cas and finish outside the 8. Not everything he does comes off, but our most important player IMO.
Also I don't what his fee has to do with anything, money well spent anyway so far.'"
Sneyd is the best half back we have had for years. He does make mistakes and can be inconsistent but he can be brilliant too. He will only get better.
Dave is right about the fee. You don't hear people banging on about Westerman's fee.
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| How many games have we been carp in when sneyd has been missing? Winning at cas when he went off and lost, completely hopeless in the home derby, same against leeds in the cup and away at wakey. Any more? He just needs to find some consistency but we are much better with him in the team
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "How many games have we been carp in when sneyd has been missing? Winning at cas when he went off and lost, completely hopeless in the home derby, same against leeds in the cup and away at wakey. Any more? He just needs to find some consistency but we are much better with him in the team'"
There is something a bit fishy about this post.
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| Quote: Diogenes "Sneyd is the best half back we have had for years. He does make mistakes and can be inconsistent but he can be brilliant too. He will only get better.'"
Spot on.
Quote: Diogenes "Dave is right about the fee. You don't hear people banging on about Westerman's fee.'"
I agree on this as well. I think the thing with Westy is that he's now been with us a few years and I think people tend to forget about fees over time so the same will happen with Sneyd. If you look back to when Westerman first joined us people probably judged him by his fee too. Not that they should've done (as they shouldn't with Sneyd) but I'd bet they did.
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