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| Quote: DSJ1983 "You’d think it would make sense whatever the nature of the deal to have it sorted in time for more certainty with stuff like season tickets, IMG grading etc. We really have no idea though who the potential investor or investors are though and what they want in return for the investment, any assurances etc it might just be a complex deal. The timescale was always the back end of the year supposedly.'"
anything with investment especially from thirkell whos a lifelong leeds fan & president warrants a caveat on top
what is the but in all of this ?
is he going to move hull fc away from the KCOM ?
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "anything with investment especially from thirkell whos a lifelong leeds fan & president warrants a caveat on top
what is the but in all of this ?
is he going to move hull fc away from the KCOM ?'"
I don't think there's any option other than extending the lease at the MKM there isn't enough time to design, fund and build a new stadium.
I see to recall the MKM got signed off in 1999 for an end of 2002 opening so 3 Years but that with the council pushing it. This time we'd be leaving a council owned ground and who's to say they'd be supportive?
And geographically there is nowhere else to play, even putting aside the centuries of rivalry the hours drive in traffic to Craven Park would be enough to hit gates. Apart from that you are looking at Donny or York.
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| Quote: UllFC "I don't think there's any option other than extending the lease at the MKM there isn't enough time to design, fund and build a new stadium.
I see to recall the MKM got signed off in 1999 for an end of 2002 opening so 3 Years but that with the council pushing it. This time we'd be leaving a council owned ground and who's to say they'd be supportive?
And geographically there is nowhere else to play, even putting aside the centuries of rivalry the hours drive in traffic to Craven Park would be enough to hit games. Apart from that you are looking at Donny or York.'"
i agree i think the lease will be renewed but if whats being said is true what is thirkells motive, is it just richie wanting a genuine go at being an owner and mould his own team or is it a genuine monetary motive
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "No one can deny AP gave us the greatest day of most supporters lives. Just think he’s had good intentions, but been let down badly by those advising him.
Can see what happened when someone who knew what they were doing got involved (Motu Tony).
McRae, Howes, Redford, Clarke and O’Meley have all done him a disservice in terms of recruitment, and no doubt wasted a tonne of money.'"
Sad thing is he started off on the right lines, if you asked me who is the best advisor possible in 2011 I'd have said McRae. That year we signed '10 internationals' was the start of the over hype. We got Ellis but the other internationals were just players who'd been named in an England Knights training camp.
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "anything with investment especially from thirkell whos a lifelong leeds fan & president warrants a caveat on top
what is the but in all of this ?
is he going to move hull fc away from the KCOM ?'"
We don’t know who the investor is. They can’t move the club if they don’t own it outright, but I can’t see anyone wanting to do that anyways.
We got a provisional grade A license despite underperforming for years and spending way under the cap limit. The reason why we might be attracting investors is that you could possibly reason that it will only take a relatively low investment to have us competing again as the infrastructure is mostly in place already, can’t see anyone wanting to spend millions and millions on a ground.
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "anything with investment especially from thirkell whos a lifelong leeds fan & president warrants a caveat on top
what is the but in all of this ?
is he going to move hull fc away from the KCOM ?'"
I don't have any issues with a potential new owner being a fan of another club. It could be that he fancies owning a rugby club after all these years and knows that Leeds isn't an option. He's seen FC and thinks we have potential. Similar to Adam Pearson back in the day when he was at Leeds United and bought Hull City. I think that it's fair to say that he gave it his all whilst their owner and there was never any questions about his affiliations with Leeds. So for me, there doesn't have to be a but and it can purely be something that is seen as a worthwhile investment opportunity. Time will tell of course. That's if it's even Thirkill that's investing in the first place, which we still don't know.
As for moving us out of the stadium, personally I would prefer us to have our own ground but I don't know if that's a possibility or not. Back when we moved in, everything seemed so perfect. A shiny new stadium, long term lease, good relationship with City and the SMC. Now everything feels so fragile and precarious. And the KC/KCOM/MKM has rarely felt like our home because of it.
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "We don’t know who the investor is. They can’t move the club if they don’t own it outright, but I can’t see anyone wanting to do that anyways.
We got a provisional grade A license despite underperforming for years and spending way under the cap limit. The reason why we might be attracting investors is that you could possibly reason that it will only take a relatively low investment to have us competing again as the infrastructure is mostly in place already, can’t see anyone wanting to spend millions and millions on a ground.'"
Despite all the fuss from Derek and others this is meant to be a positive of the IMG system, an investor can see a club is safe for a few years (most things are a 3 year average) so the risk of going down and losing it all is reduced.
I'm not a fan of all the IMG idea but people do get a bit misty eyed over the relegation battle, generally it led to one good attendance for the clubs involved (like the famous battle of Belle Vue where fans were sat in roofs of houses) but SL could have lost Leeds, Rovers and now us for good in recent years and there simply aren't teams in the Championship capable of 10k crowds sat waiting
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| You'd think Londo were a new club the way people are going on about them, they have been around over 40 years, people are interested in London rugby league, even when they were good.
Apart from a load of effort and a few players they have brought through the system, I'm not sure what they offer to SL
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "You’d think it would make sense whatever the nature of the deal to have it sorted in time for more certainty with stuff like season tickets, IMG grading etc. We really have no idea though who the potential investor or investors are though and what they want in return for the investment, any assurances etc it might just be a complex deal. The timescale was always the back end of the year supposedly.'"
Would Myler be here if his father in Law wasnt involved?
Simple answer no
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| Quote: moxi1 "There is no mortgage, but you keep telling yourself there is if it helps you sleep at night.'"
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "anything with investment especially from thirkell whos a lifelong leeds fan & president warrants a caveat on top
what is the but in all of this ?
is he going to move hull fc away from the KCOM ?'"
paul sewell and dave kilburn had no affiliation to rovers before becoming involved. I wonder why?
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| Quote: Roam Ranger "I don't have any issues with a potential new owner being a fan of another club. It could be that he fancies owning a rugby club after all these years and knows that Leeds isn't an option. He's seen FC and thinks we have potential. Similar to Adam Pearson back in the day when he was at Leeds United and bought Hull City. I think that it's fair to say that he gave it his all whilst their owner and there was never any questions about his affiliations with Leeds. So for me, there doesn't have to be a but and it can purely be something that is seen as a worthwhile investment opportunity. Time will tell of course. That's if it's even Thirkill that's investing in the first place, which we still don't know.
As for moving us out of the stadium, personally I would prefer us to have our own ground but I don't know if that's a possibility or not. Back when we moved in, everything seemed so perfect. A shiny new stadium, long term lease, good relationship with City and the SMC. Now everything feels so fragile and precarious. And the KC/KCOM/MKM has rarely felt like our home because of it.'"
I disagree. I think the relationship is currently pretty good. if you go into the main reception there's a big Hull FC montage in there and plenty of our branding around the place. The difficulty for us is the cost of being in such a large stadium when we don't need it other than the derbies. It comes with additional costs. When city got into the premier league the rates bill went up significantly and we were forced to pay our share whilst rovers continued to pay a relative pittance. The main issue is we've not really leveraged the benefits of the stadium whilst copping for the disadvantages
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "We don’t know who the investor is. They can’t move the club if they don’t own it outright, but I can’t see anyone wanting to do that anyways.
We got a provisional grade A license despite underperforming for years and spending way under the cap limit. The reason why we might be attracting investors is that you could possibly reason that it will only take a relatively low investment to have us competing again as the infrastructure is mostly in place already, can’t see anyone wanting to spend millions and millions on a ground.'"
no one is moving the club. Where would you move it to where there are 20k+ supporters within 30 minutes travel time?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I disagree. I think the relationship is currently pretty good. if you go into the main reception there's a big Hull FC montage in there and plenty of our branding around the place. The difficulty for us is the cost of being in such a large stadium when we don't need it other than the derbies. It comes with additional costs. When city got into the premier league the rates bill went up significantly and we were forced to pay our share whilst rovers continued to pay a relative pittance. The main issue is we've not really leveraged the benefits of the stadium whilst copping for the disadvantages'"
I absolutely agree the relationship has been improving. I guess I still have ill feelings about it all after what happened with the Allam's. It's their tenure that left me feeling that our tenancy has never really been that secure.
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| Quote: Roam Ranger "I absolutely agree the relationship has been improving. I guess I still have ill feelings about it all after what happened with the Allam's. It's their tenure that left me feeling that our tenancy has never really been that secure.'"
They've been the only ones that let the side down. Even Duffen despite his 'loadsamoney' traits seemed to be quite tolerant of us. City once moved a game to a lunchtime kickoff to accommodate our playoff game the same evening.
The SMC still need us I feel, otherwise there's another 13 match days of revenue to find and despite the unexpected arrival of Coldplay concerts won't fill the void.
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