Quote: IR80 "The minute you quote the leftist BBC and Guardian (owned originally by a slave owner) tells me everything to know about your narrative.'" Apologies, maybe I should have chosen news sources outside of those deemed the most trustworthy in the country https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... report.pdf

Quote: IR80 "The minute you quote the leftist BBC and Guardian (owned originally by a slave owner) tells me everything to know about your narrative.'" Apologies, maybe I should have chosen news sources outside of those deemed the most trustworthy in the country https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... report.pdf

Just out of curiosity, what do you regard as centrist or, failing that, legitimate news sources?

The founder of the Manchester Guardian was a mill owner who bought cotton from slave plantations, rather than being a slave owner himself. According to Wikipedia, anyway. [iPossibly[/i a fine distinction, but an example of how central to the British economy the profits of slavery were at that time.

That is the problem now M.R, there is no centrist or legitimate news, they all have editorial slant and leanings toward where the funds come from.

I agree 100% about the slavery issue, I just find The Guardian incredibly hypocritical, and the people that read it to be somewhat holier than thou.

Quote: IR80 "Means nothing, a huge %ge of the population believe in religion.'" A lower % than trust the Guardian and BBC though interestingly https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2019-12-04

Quote: IR80 "Means nothing, a huge %ge of the population believe in religion.'" A lower % than trust the Guardian and BBC though interestingly https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2019-12-04

an activity that someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly

For sure.
We can have dossiers and files implicating countries of harbouring weapons of mass destruction innit?
Go across and murder tens of thousands of innocent women and children.
If it needs to fit , it'll be made to fit.
Anyways, were still waiting for where you garner your wholly neutral news info?

Way off-topic but I find the widely varying perception of the BBC fascinating.
The far left seem to denounce it as a right wing govt mouthpiece and at the same time many on the right scream that it's too left leaning.
The implication then is it's fairly centrist in its outlook.
It's far from a perfect institution and I think it's has become a little too obsessed with appearing 'balanced' but it seems to have a far less pronounced editorial slant than many news sources out there.

I hadn't added or twisted any words? It was straight from Cambridge dictionary

you completely missed my point, but it happens when you are more obsessed with who posted as opposed to the post itself.

give yer head a bang and get over yourself daft lad.

I was simply after you clarifying your meaning of 'religion'