No idea, but I reckon the majority of it was spent one out running.

Sounds like the knives are being sharpened for Radford, but is it all his fault? Do you really have the team? It's a few years since you've had a top 4 finish.

Evening statto.........

It was in our first year in SL but still a while ago

Wrong. The last time we finished top four was 2007.

Yeah, realised that just after I'd pressed submit Didn't one of the top 4 get stripped of points though?

I'm glad Radford has given the much lauded rankin/miller combo a chance. I notice that there is little credit for Radford from those who insisted that was the way to go and who feared that the inclusion of Horne in last night's squad meant that he would automatically be selected at half back as a result which he clearly wasn't.

I would play Horne when available and leave the other two to fight for the other spot. This gives us some much needed experience there and a good deal of skill as well. I haven't seen anything to suggest that playing Horne would reduce the skill level available from a Rankin/Miller partnership. Far from it. If/when Horne (or for that matter one of the aussies) gets injured the other one comes in. The one difficulty with that is that we can't play an overseas player for Donny which is an issue.

That's how I'd use the current resources. Not ideal but as I say there's no evidence that Horne is a worse player than Rankin or Miller so for me we use his experience to help bring on the other two whilst not playing SL with a totally inexperienced half back combo.

This "mystic" half back that exists which dominates every minute of every game and always ensures his side wins, anyone know who he is ?

Because far as I can see they isn't a half back in this world that as a 100% record, all this talk of we need a player that can take a hold of a game is just plain rubbish for me. Rugby League is the ultimate team game and should any team have a weakness they will get punished, in this sport it is very rare you can under perform and still win. For me the real reason we are losing the close games is no goal kicker and bad discipline, if we didn't have those problems Thursday night could have being a different result.

Considering what little platform they had to build off, I didn't think the half backs looked all that bad. Made some errors and some poor kicks, but you will get that with youngsters and even more so with young half backs. you don't just turn into a top half back overnight it actually takes years of experience to become the full all round general. Look at matty smith at Wigan, none of the top teams would touch him 3/4 seasons ago and now he is the general of the reigning champions.

We just aint going to be able to quick fix this problem, we need stability in this position and to build around half backs rather then expecting a half back to come in and change our way. With Rankin and Miller we have a chance to do that and its a big bonus they are both very good friends. How anyone can look at them two now and instantly make a decision on if they are the answer is quite frankly stupid. I'm not saying they are going to be the answer but need far more time and investment before we find out, not just losing one game by a point. If we knee jerk we are just going down the same path we have for the last 7 seasons.

When the props have dominated this season I think Miller, Rankin and Westy have all looked to have formed a good partnership. Done more good then bad IMO.

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You can't come on saying things like this. The quick fix merchants will be demanding your head.

Well said pmarrow. Agree with every word

Excellent, rational, spot-on post.

I think after your performance against Huddersfield when your forwards completely dominated you went into this game as fans thinking it would be more of the same.

We've started to play well though especially in the forwards and having Justin Poore back only toughened that area up even more.

I expected us to play poorly and lose which we did. It's been the story of our season - win well one week, lose badly the next. I'm convinced it's a mental/attitude issue

Good post - sums it up perfectly.
Miller was a top player coming through the grades,
but still a bit young & will probably be 2 or 3 years before he is the finished article

what a change ,to read a post that someone has actualy put a lot of inteligent thought into composing.