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| agar will not be sacked he is here for a long time yet !
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| Quote: elroy "agar will not be sacked he is here for a long time yet !'"
The Board will find that if he his here for a long time, then many fans will wait a long time to renew their passes!!!
If he stays I'm not renewing
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| crowd will be 8500 on friday, goodbye agar, sorry i cant be there to see your demise, i'll be at ascot fillin me boots
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| Quote: BalearicHullFan "Its 90% Agar's fault. He is responsible for this team. We have the players despite the injuries to be compertitive against teams like Wakefield, no dispreact intended to them.
But poor fitness, poor defence, poor offence, poor subbing, poor formation, and clueless attack in a team that actually look like their frustrated as well is inexcusable. The player have to take some of it on their shoulders, but its the lack of the experience in the coaching role that is our main problem IMO.
Saying that when our new coach comes in (almost inevitable IMO), he should be allowed to have a clear out without the least amount of restrictions possible. Not because of the players attitudes particularly, they do have a no give up attitude, but because they are the wrong players and again that comes down to coaching.'"
If you are coached by amateurs.
You play like amateurs.
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| Quote: weaver93 "If you are coached by amateurs.
You play like amateurs.'"
Simple as this.
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| Quote: weaver93 "If you are coached by amateurs.
You play like amateurs.'" there lies the problem
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| I agree that it's 90% Agar and Sharps fault. You can have the best players in the world but if there's a donkey in charge they ain't going to do any good.
As a comparrision if I was put in charge of Man Utd or Chelsea I wouldn't have a clue how to coach them. I'd have great players at my disposal but the team would be poop because of my cluelessness as a coach.
Give Agar a year in charge of the Australian national team and he'd turn them to a one dimensional shambles.
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| Listening to Phil Gould on 'The Footy Show'
He said:
" You can always judge the personality of your coach,
the way the team,plays on the field"
Draw your own conclusions!!
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| Quote: weaver93 "Listening to Phil Gould on 'The Footy Show'
He said You can always judge the personality of your coach,
the way the team,plays on the field"
Draw your own conclusions!!'"
great statement
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| Quote: weaver93 "Listening to Phil Gould on 'The Footy Show'
He said
wayne bennett?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "wayne bennett?'"
Yeah.
Tough,uncomprising, determined.
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| The OP of this thread asks a very pertinent question. Is the coach the problem or the team?
On the face of things you would say coach, he's the man in charge and the buck stops with him, but lets think about this shall we?
If Agar walks he will be the 3rd coach to be sacked in four years, because of the performances on the park. The playing staff hasn't changed all that much over the stewardship of Kear, Sharp, and now Agar has it? We played some good rugby when Agar took over the team as interim coach before Sharp took over. Sharp practically admitted he had to change nothing when he got here, and we went on to the Grand Final.
Just blame the coach hasn't worked in the past has it? Maybe some should look at getting rid of some of the team.
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| Agar isnt good enough FACT, injuries excuse doesnt wash for me, the only players we have missing that would have started under Agar would be Manu and Calderwood (id start Washy at 13 but the less said about Agars choice for 13 the better).
His tactics of 5 drives and a kick (a crap 1 at that usually) just isnt good enough, ive seen games on Sky on a Thurs night and teams like Halifax and Barrow would fancy their chances against us.
Yes i understood this isnt Agars team a lot of the dross was here under Sharp but theirs still a nucleus of the 2006 grand final team Dowes, Thackray,Yeamo, Raynor, Whiting,Horney,Tony, Berro instead of Swain.
We are massively underachieveing on the pitch and it simply isnt good enough
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| Quote: Matty_HullFC "At what point do we shift it from Agar's fault to the players? Can Agar be blamed for players not being able to catch the ball/giving away stupid stupid penalties?
People say Agar should be out because
a) He can't motivate the team - He clearly can because they came out in the second half all guns blazing, if they didn't want to play for him they wouldn't have being trying so hard.
b) His tactics are rubbish, 1 up rugby - Don't think anyone can say that after the last 2 games, we look like we are a lot better in attack with Tony/Raynor back in the team.
c) His interchanges - Much improved tonight for me.
Only thing you can say tonight is Radford playing 13.
How much can we say it's down to Agar? These are mostly the same set of players that Sharp had, who got him sacked. Are the players just not good enough?'"
There in lies the problem with your post. Last time I looked RL was an 80 minute game. NOT A 40 MIN GAME. You don't get points for winning a half. We were woeful in the first half. Thats when they should be motivated not when the game is lost and the opposition are already in the pub celebrating.
I was expecting a good competative game tonight. I turned up looking forward to it. From the minute we kicked off and ground out 35 yeards from our first 5 tackles and then kicked out on the full the writing was on the wall. Simply bloody awful and an insult to those of us who foolishly spent our hard earned following them again.
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