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Quote: Raggytash "For whatever reason, I agree he wanted to leave. In terms of compensation, 50k was woefully short of the mark. The Wire fans I've spoke to think they should have paid double. Carvell would start in any SL side.'"


Agree he would start for any SL team when fit. However 50k for a guy thats at the back end of his career and has missed a chunk of the season for Wire too this season is still pretty good im, especially when we pay 30k for someone who is one of the brightest prospects in the game.

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Quote: Big Dave T "Agree he would start for any SL team when fit. However 50k for a guy thats at the back end of his career and has missed a chunk of the season for Wire too this season is still pretty good im, especially when we pay 30k for someone who is one of the brightest prospects in the game.'"


Since we were paying him double that in wages a season and had him signed up for 2 years I disagree.

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Quote: Raggytash "For whatever reason, I agree he wanted to leave. In terms of compensation, 50k was woefully short of the mark. The Wire fans I've spoke to think they should have paid double. Carvell would start in any SL side.'"

Carvell was certainly worth more than £50k. The problem was that we were backed into a corner because the contract issue happened so late on and we needed to resolve it ASAP. If we'd had the luxury of more time maybe we'd have been able to hold out for a bigger fee.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "The one consistent from kear, through sharp and agar is agar himself. He wasn't around when mcrae had us playing an exciting brand of attacking rugby'"


Totally Agree - But another i would say is Lee Radford - The guy thinks hes a coach and im sure hes having a big say in what happens coaching wise at this club.

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Quote: Cardiff2005 "Totally Agree - But another i would say is Lee Radford - The guy thinks hes a coach and im sure hes having a big say in what happens coaching wise at this club.'"


That's agar's fault as well then if it's happening

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Quote: Big Dave T "Agree he would start for any SL team when fit. However 50k for a guy thats at the back end of his career and has missed a chunk of the season for Wire too this season is still pretty good im, especially when we pay 30k for someone who is one of the brightest prospects in the game.'"


There is absolutely no way that Jordan Tansey is one of the brightest prospects in the game. There's at least 20 aussie prospects, 20 kiwi's and 20 u.k players in front of him. He is however young enough to still have potential and hopefully he will improve into a very good player. I think 30k is an accurate valuation whereas most fans agree 50k for Carvell was a bargain for Wire.

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Quote: Raggytash "There is absolutely no way that Jordan Tansey is one of the brightest prospects in the game. There's at least 20 aussie prospects, 20 kiwi's and 20 u.k players in front of him. He is however young enough to still have potential and hopefully he will improve into a very good player. I think 30k is an accurate valuation whereas most fans agree 50k for Carvell was a bargain for Wire.'"


He may not be one of the brightest prospects globaly, but he is certainly one of the brighter ones produced by this country. Not many British players could get a contract with an NRL club at the age of 21. He has also made a respectful 8 appearnces in the roosters first 11 games, so he must have impressed in the short time that he has been there.

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Quote: chico's nose "Will anything actually change next season?

Ok we have signed Long to give us direction around the park and a bit of attacking flair, but unless Agar totally changes the way he prepares the side and expects them to play will anything actually change?

Long looked like the dogs nads last night and gave us a glimpse of what we might expect, but unfortunately I can see his impact been minimal, unless we change in attack.

We only run in ones, very rarely have dummy runners and 99 times out of a 100 we only run straight. The only time we ran at an angle resulted in Tickles try. Any half back is only as good as there runners, and we simply don’t have any. Long was on top form last night, but saints constantly ran in numbers, ran the angles, backed up and even threw in a run around now and then. This resulted in Long been spoilt for choice and allowed him to pick us to pieces.

We currently create nothing in attack and are looking for a player to bust a tackle for us to score. Saints on the other hand create gap after gap and overlap after overlap. I hope Mr Agar understands that this is not solely down to the undoubted skill of Sean Long, but the fact that he has numerous runners to choose who he gives the ball to time after time.

It’s all well and good signing Long, but Agar has to give him the tools to work with, if not the signing will be yet another false dawn for us FC fans.'"

I think you are wrong Chico.

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Quote: revs " Fitzgibbon could be as good for us as Menzies is at the Bulls.'"


I disagree, completely different players in my opinion, Menzies is a great attacking player, and even though they are of a similar age his last season in the NRL Menzies was playing a lot better then Fitzgibbon.

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Quote: Big Dave T "Agree he would start for any SL team when fit. However 50k for a guy thats at the back end of his career and has missed a chunk of the season for Wire too this season is still pretty good im, especially when we pay 30k for someone who is one of the brightest prospects in the game.'"


Just two points Dave:

Firstly Carvell has got plenty of years left him in. I think that your judgement is clouded by the fact your body has given up the ghost at 29. icon_wink.gif
Secondly, when did Tansey become one of the brightest prospects in the game? Hang on i think i know that one, what day did you sign him? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Whiting "I think you are wrong Chico.'"


So you are happy with our attacking performances under Agar and would be happy for us to play the same style of rugby next season with Long?

Anyone who thinks that all that needs to happen next season is for Long to put a black and white shirt on for us to score 30 points a game are kidding themselves.

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Quote: chico's nose "So you are happy with our attacking performances under Agar and would be happy for us to play the same style of rugby next season with Long?

Anyone who thinks that all that needs to happen next season is for Long to put a black and white shirt on for us to score 30 points a game are kidding themselves.'"


There's plenty who do though, presumably inluding our chief exec and the rest of the board

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Quote: Jake the Peg "There's plenty who do though, presumably inluding our chief exec and the rest of the board'"


How do you know Agar isnt telling the board "we currently dont have the players to play attacking rugby but believe me when I build my team for next year and get rid of the driftwood already here when i took the job things will be different !!!! "

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Quote: MR BOJANGLES "How do you know Agar isnt telling the board "we currently dont have the players to play attacking rugby but believe me when I build my team for next year and get rid of the driftwood already here when i took the job things will be different !!!! "'"


I'm sure he is and that some will believe him

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Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm sure he is and that some will believe him'"


Im sure he is but I dont blame the board for accepting what he is saying and going with him on it.
I too think next seasons buying will help but no it is not going to be the answer to all our questions.
Agar does have to go as he does not have what it takes to take us to the next level.
Unfortunately him leaving will not be on the horizon for quite some time though!

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